Slaven Bilic named as West Ham Manager (09.06.15)

sweepy23

Clearly I was wrong.

Bye bye Bilic

I don’t see how the owners have a choice after this result

steve

;puzzled what

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Neville

IronHerb

Yep, Bilic out

imagelost

Put his mouth where the money is ;champagne

imagelost

Erm great interview slav,,

TwistandShout

I love Slav , he's a nice guy and has acted with real class since he's been here. But you can't carry on after a performance like that

SuzanneClaret

Enough is enough.

We were shambolic tonight.

This is the best squad we have had in ages and we can’t stop a Brighton team with Murray in it from scoring 3 goals.

MarkNobleLocalHero

I look at the back of tonights programme to see the respective squads and there is no-one in the Brighton squad I would choose over what we have and yet...
OK lets get Murray ;doh That Knockaert was good in the championship so maybe two except if we had bought either of those two in the window I would have been distinctly underwhelmed. On paper we are head and shoulders (no joke intended Joe) above them but.....0-3 ouch.
It can only be down to one person. He carries the can and not just for this match.

Putney_Hammer

Wouldn’t be surprised if Everton lose to arsenal and we swap managers ;lol

whupathman

But would Wenger come to us?

OldCastleSwift

The time has come. I thought he should have gone after the Newcastle game but Huddersfield saved him. The Swansea win gave him another stay of execution but there is no coming back from this.

This is the best squad we've had for a long, long time but there is no shape or style to our play, and the buck had to stop with the manager.

For me, the board have to face a stark reality; the "morality" of letting Slav see out his contract, or Premier League survival, because I fear they can't have them both.

claretandbluesky

I am a Bilic fan but even I can recognise that it's now time. Sadly I think he owes his wages for the last year to Payet who made him look better than he ever was.

tomkinsworldclass

I'm a Bilic fan and he still retains my complete faith and belief in him and that we will go on to have a productive, enjoyable season as it is still early on. It was a bad performance and result but I think the players deserve an awful lot of the blame for it; normally I tend to try to avoid the blame game as it tends to be abit too simplistic and retrospective but vs Brighton it wasnt about the selection or tactics or any other simplified element, it was about the players' attitude, desire and individual responsibility for their own game and that sacred covenant of playing for your teammates.The manager will get the blame as they always do but once the players cross the white line theres only so much a manager can do.

Looking at the goals in isolation- 1st-the defence isnt organised and gets distracted by a runner at the back, 2nd Antonio casually meanders back so Obiang gets dragged out wide 3rd Lanzini goes off the pitch for treatment leaving us down to 10 and overloaded at the back post which leaves Zaba in a tough position. Basic individual decision making which affects your teammate- address the runner at the back post if they are free, Antonio bust your gut to defend and get back into position so Obaing can stay in his, Lanzni, if you want treatment go down on the pitch as we are making the sub so the ref stops the game, etc, etc. Basic fundamentals of any self respecting pros which shouldnt have to be coached or told to do so.

Understandably there's are lot of heat and tension post match but for all the doom and gloom the PL table is still very very congested and it would be a complete over reaction for WHU to bring in a new manager; for so long WHUs managerial record and values used to be something to be so proud of but the ethos under G+S has made us a laughing stock. The underlying importance of a manager, which is so often disregarded in the modern era, is to problem solve, to analyse and address, to take direct action to get an effect; so Bilic, as he has done so many times at WHU, deserves support to realign things and get the team going in the right direction which has has done frequently for us.

The case for bringing in a new manager is also historically pretty bare; sure there will be an instant reaction as is the case in most appointments but then all the other issues and knock-on effects will rise again as they always do at WHU as we have consistently built around short-termisms. Slaven needs to make some big calls about the personnel and the dynamics, he needs to read the rot act because, as stated above, alot of the elements behind the poor performance were basic and individual- Antonios performance over the 90 was extraordinarily substandard for any league.

baracks_a_hammer

I believe Slav will still be in charge v Spurs and v Palace

OldCastleSwift

I believe he will be too.

I also believe we'll get a hiding in both.

baracks_a_hammer

Ultimately it will come down to what the Dave’s consider to be more important - the “moral” (a tad ironic given sully’s core line of business) obligation to honour a manager’s contract or the fact that paying fans are now being routinely insulted by appalling levels of performance week in week out.

ASLEFshrugged

The Daves aren't going to do a thing unless they have a manager lined up to replace Bilic

If Bilic goes its likely that Jurcevic, Terzic and Rak will go with him leaving either Dicks, Woods or Westley as caretaker until we can find a replacement

SuzanneClaret

Tomkins. Some very valid points as usual.

But a manager should can and must effect a game once the players have crossed the white line.

TwistandShout

baracks_a_hammer said:

I believe Slav will still be in charge v Spurs and v Palace

There's no way he can continue after that last night. Surely

baracks_a_hammer

I don’t disagree with you Twist I just don’t on balance think he will be sacked - I think the Dave’s are determined to only make any assessment at the end of the season

Personally I think the time for change has come and is in fact well overdue. On paper there’s more than enough quality in our squad. Bottom line is our manager isn’t getting them to play anywhere near their potential and this problem has existed for a long time now.

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

I thought he should have gone after Newcastle game and nothing I’ve seen since then has changed my mind. We have a good, creative squad, yet Bilic has made it both toothless and spineless.

Take Payet and the Upton Park euphoria/emotion out of his first season and it would be going just like this one and last season, IMO.

Time for a change.

thornburyiron

Another thing that annoys me is we've had five defeats in our first 9 matches and after each one, one or more of the players have said "we are disappointed but will work hard on the training pitch to put things right" but they don't put things right so do they work hard?
When the OS posts pictures of training sessions it generally seems to be jogging or exercising. I'm not confident any of our "coaching" staff have any actual tactical nous at all so can't really set plans for opposition teams and from what I've seen of them pitch side during matches none of them show any kind of animation or frustration at what's going on during the game. I know losing your rag doesn't really help but it might send a message to the players that they're not happy.
With the way things are going in modern society with Cambridge Uni warning students there may be sex and violence in Shakespeare plays and Glasgow Uni warning theology students they may get upset when they read about the crucifixion but surely we are not taking the players sensibilities into account to the extreme by not telling them that they are playing rubbish (substitute more apt word at your leisure)

baracks_a_hammer

Did anyone read that piece about Jose Fonte commenting on the incredible level of detail Poch went about his work behind the scenes, assessing players’ body language even when putting on their training bibs etc. Although a figure of ridicule when it comes to England, there are even reports on how detailed and specific Hodgson is too (at club level). Sam too, even though not liked by many (except Twist) was apparently meticulous behind the scenes. You wonder what Slavs approach is behind the scenes. I’m prepared to guess that isn’t akin to the likes of poch, Hodgson, sam etc. Hard work and meticulous, almost obsessive preparation in training will more likely than not yield dividends on the pitch.

thornburyiron

According to Sky the board are meeting today to discuss his future. They were shocked at what they saw last night.

baracks_a_hammer

Although aghast, I wasn’t shocked or surprised at all. This has been on the cards for a while, all the signs have been there.

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

Think is he's lost the fans and it looks like he's lost the players they just don't look like team battling for the manager

That is probably on paper our strongest XI and we were thumped by a team who couldn't score away from home (just like Southampton who couldn't score and Newcastle who couldn't score)

He needs to go the whole club has turned toxic the club needs fresh ideas

What's worrying for me is all season n we have no game plan.....we pass it around aimlessly then cross from positions of no threat

Bilic has to go

TwistandShout

thornburyiron said:

According to Sky the board are meeting today to discuss his future. They were shocked at what they saw last night.

They're trying to figure out the cheapest way to sack him and who would be the cheapest to bring in

IronHerb

So Barracks, when we’re you going to tell us we would get thrashed by Brighton, play abysmally and the stadium would be emptying out 10 minutes from time? ;hmm

Pearces_Left_Foot

A terrible performance in a terrible season we have been poor for most of last season and this getting by on scrappy 1-0 wins against the bottom teams. I like Slav as a person but the team just seem to be going backwards and the generally level of apathy amongst the fans is going up . We need a change ,time for Slav to go