Slaven Bilic named as West Ham Manager (09.06.15)

IronHerb

I'm with Mrs G on this. New owners tend to want 'their' man in place otherwise if all goes well it's down, in this case, to Rafa and not them.

OldCastleSwift

Rumours on Twitter that Bilic offered his resignation after the Newcastle game but the board turned it down ;hmm

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

Excellent so they probably don’t want him long term, but won’t do anything short term and he may not want to be there right now

Recipe for disaster?

TwistandShout

OldCastleSwift said:

Rumours on Twitter that Bilic offered his resignation after the Newcastle game but the board turned it down ;hmm

Mark Noble - "This club is no longer a circus"

Lukerz

How difficult is it to pick a manager you think would be good for the club and do everything to get him? It will require some cash because most of those managers are employed. How much do they want the club to progress?

Wagner or Silva would be exactly what we need. A young, dynamic coach is exactly what we need. If you want to go more experienced then Benetiz is an ideal pick. Bilic just isn’t good enough in certain areas.

What they are doing currently is embrassing and very negative. Knowing they will let Bilic go in the summer but won’t pull the trigger now because the freebies are not who they want. Shocking.

welovethehammers

Watching the West Ham u23 game against Chelsea u23's and I can see why Bilic is reluctant to put Martinez in the team. He looks like he will score goals but not a lot else. He looks slow with quite a heavy touch but definitely has goals in him. Similar to when we had Nolan

baracks_a_hammer

If the rumour concerning bilic resigning and allegedly saying goodbye to the players after the Newcastle game is true is it any wonder recent the performances (even the victory v Swansea) have been so insipid ;doh

If a manager is struggling and as a result wants to resign, why on earth would any club want to turn it down ;doh

The daves have done themselves no favours in the recent past. If they want to pussy foot around and do neither one thing nor another, they might as well follow mike ashley’s path and put the club up for sale.

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

So they wouldn’t pay the asking price for Carvalho and they won’t pay to get rid of Slav.

14m net spend in the summer

Anyone seeing a trend?

There were also scuffles in the Corp boxes on Friday, the natives are getting restless

baracks_a_hammer

But it’s even worse SCHB - if he actually did offer up his resignation they wouldn’t have to pay up his contract right? So it then only comes down to a reluctance to actually pay a release fee for a manager who is a step up who might already be in a job ;doh

My hunch is that in the summer we will be welcoming Moyes to the London Stadium

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Barrack

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Fortuneseeker

They just had a brief conversation on MOTD2 about the Bilic situation. The main point they made was Slav saying I got us out of a similar position last season and am confident I can do it again, they commented shouldn't the question be why are West Ham in the same predicament as last year & it isn't a defence to say you can fix it again?

welovethehammers

baracks_a_hammer said:

But it’s even worse SCHB - if he actually did offer up his resignation they wouldn’t have to pay up his contract right? So it then only comes down to a reluctance to actually pay a release fee for a manager who is a step up who might already be in a job ;doh

My hunch is that in the summer we will be welcoming Moyes to the London Stadium

I would've thought Bilic would have asked for a payout and our chairmen refused. May be wrong though. Bilic wouldn't be able to walk away as he'd technically be breaching his contract.

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

Yep they probably wanted him to pay them compensation.......

Perhaps they were thinking they’d use it for a Jan bid for Carvalho? Oh wait

Barney

he should be safe now - we just moved up a place!

mike

Fake News

TwistandShout

Sky sources saying he's remaining as manager.

Haha what.

Pengeman

It is not just the case of paying compensation to Bilic (that should be minimal with only 8 more months left on his contract), but also to his backroom staff who will mostly be cleared out to make room for the next team. the payments need to be seen in the context of possible loss of receipts due to relegation, loss of fan base and discontent.

If a new manager was to start within the next two weeks or so, he will have enough time to assess the capabilities of the current senior players and use the January kitty wisely. so delay at this juncture does not make any sense.

It looks to me that Bilic has lost the dressing room - playing too many players out of position; playing his favourite players who perform poorly (Carroll) and thus blocking others; discontent (Sakho???); wages problems, higher wages to new unproven players (Arnautovic) whilst others do not get the same, and lack of nous and tactics - not sure what his formation and frontline is and no Plan B. It is hard to detect team comradery. I would guess that players like Reid, Noble, Carroll, Adrian. Kouyate are probably very influential behind the scenes and two Daves would have privately canvassed their thoughts.

I can't see Bilic lasting and if WHU do not beat Palace that should be curtains and Westley would probably be a caretaker manager, at least initially.

Fortuneseeker

Having read through these comments I reckon I have final got my head round the situation. The owners neither have the money to take us to the next level (1), however that is quantified, and no funds to pay off the existing managerial team (2) and attract a manager who could possibly achieve the first part. It is really quite depressing that realisation. So we coast to the end of the season and hope we survive, haven't we been here before it recent times? ;doh

baracks_a_hammer

Every single year we do it barring the odd blip.

First rule every season at West Ham - get to 40 points

Lukerz

Has Spurs and Palace to save his job apparently.

Fortuneseeker

What the happens if we perform badly in the seven games after those 2 which looking at the fixtures is quite likely, especially the three at the start of December?

thornburyiron

We've had our worst start since 2010 and we all know what happened that season.

TwistandShout

Put the poor guy out of his misery

grey_til_I_dye

Bit surprised at the apparently easy acceptance of the assertion that the owners only look to do things on the cheap. Well, tbh, I'm not, but I should be, given the paucity of evidence.

A half-baked Twitter rumour apparently supports this assertion, but if the rumour proves to be false, I doubt we'll see the 'assertees' bother to admit they were wrong.

The board were on the verge of appointing Benitez until Real stepped in.

How does that fit your cheapskate narrative?

Lukerz

Grey - the board have been ‘on the verge’ of a lot of things during their time here.

All the way back to Beckham, van Nistelrooy, Riquelme, Henry to the most recent ones of Bacca, Carvahlo, Batshuayi, Iheanacho, Lacazette to name only a few.

Rafa was just another on the list of ‘nearly’ signings. No doubt they tried and all were close. The outcome though was unsuccessful.

They are either just incredibly, incredibly unlucky or lack the ability to get things over the line.

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

Probably a bit of both imo

We spent £45m on Ayew and Arnie but £65m gets you Carvalho and Bats.....now that really is next level

Zaza couldn’t hit a barn door with us but he has 8 goals in Spain this season, the total amount we have this season ;weep

claretandbluesky

Looking down the list of the betting for our next manager you can see the problem which is availability. One name which I could see which may appeal to our board is Pardew on a contract until the end of the season.

He is available, likely not too expensive, has West Ham ties and importantly tends to have immediate impact before trailing into struggling long term. As we desperately need instant impact he may be what we end up with.

The hope is that Benitez is tempted and uses the change of board at Newcastle to let himself out of the door, but unlikely with him doing well at present.

mike

This is ridiculous,how many more chances must he have.?
I remember the 2010-11 season when the board couldn't make up their mind whether to sack avram grant or not.We all know what happened there.?

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

It wasn’t that they couldn’t make up their mind, they had MON lined up but I think he said no after indictating he would, then they stuck with Avram

Bazshuayi

Defoe's injured, so he can come too.

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