Slaven Bilic named as West Ham Manager (09.06.15)

SuzanneClaret

I think that goal probably saved Bilic's job.... I'm no longer sure that it should.

steve

With a bit of luck he will have a full squad to choose from for our next game ,so I for one still love the guy and would hope he gets the next 3 games and then see where we stand

OldCastleSwift

Suze ;ok I've lost all confidence in him. A win is a win, but we're not playing well and haven't for a while now.

And to be honest, part of me is looking forward to having a manager that I have no strong feelings about. It kills me that Slav isn't doing well and it would make my life a lot easier criticising a manager I feel nothing but indifference to ;lol

SuzanneClaret

There was so much wrong with how we played today and that is down to the manager.

This win just papers over the cracks.

MarkNobleLocalHero

I have liked Slav throughout but I am beginning now to doubt him big time after today's performance. There have been plenty of other poor performances under Slav but I have allowed him the benefit of the doubt and all that.
No longer.
I am beginning to suspect that Slav is a bit of a fraud and no more a football manager than I am.
The team that he has at his disposal should be performing at a much higher level.
Those last two substitutions today will save him for a little longer but he should have made them much sooner.

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

I have no confidence that we’ll ever be a side that isn’t scrapping out ugly, desperate wins and taking the occasional battering under Bilic.

OutcastLondoner

Can see why Besiktas tired of him after a deceptively sparkly first season - they've come a long way since.

Moojor

I reckon he will be gone by the Jan window. Time for the new person to bring in at least 1 or 2 of their own players.
I so wanted him to succeed, or at least show that he can get us moving in the right direction and be given the time to really build a WH for the future.
Sadly we don't appear to have any real plan A. We look like a random group of 11 players who can all play football but have never played together before.

baracks_a_hammer

steve said:

With a bit of luck he will have a full squad to choose from for our next game ,so I for one still love the guy and would hope he gets the next 3 games and then see where we stand

Steve, I think nearly all West Ham fans love Bilic as an individual. He always conducts himself exceptionally well and is a credit to our club. However it is alarming that too many performances bear the hallmarks of 11 individuals who take the field and don't actually know what they are supposed to be doing. And this goes back well into last season. It's been far too long and for me, as sorry as I would be to see him go, I think that time has come.

imagelost

Impact manger and a very good one

NEoldiron

As a comparison, try to imagine the same players with Pep or Poch. ;hmm

MrsGrey

NEoldiron said:

As a comparison, try to imagine the same players with Pep or Poch. ;hmm

Sold?

claretandbluesky

I really love the guy but when looking at the last season and this there has been poor transfer windows (not sure who is to blame) , and a lack of an effective system unsurprisingly due to these players not really being suited. Last season no strikers, this season two strikers he can't match up and one he is not favouring, still no high quality defensive midfielder in the Parker mode. He has spent money but not well in my opinion and last seasons approach was ridiculously designed towards a European competition which we were always unlikely to win. Poor judgment.

I think he should be given more time as there is little reason to change unless someone is available that you cannot let pass, which in my view there isn't. But if he has not found a coherent way to play these players and gaining points by January then time for a change. The team are together and playing for him and this should not be underestimated, and it says to me if I were in charge to hold fire and see how he reacts to the undoubted realisation that his job is on the line.

History may yet suggest he is a passionate manager who has had problems managing transfer policy and yet overcame this and established himself as a genuine premiership standard manager.

or

He is a passionate manager who got more rope than he probably deserved due to being made to look good by Payet in his first season.

grey_til_I_dye

NE

Those managers would never put themselves in a position to manage a squad like ours.

Fortuneseeker

grey,

;ok but for the fear of being told I am being unrealistic what should we get sorted first the top manager or a squad to challenge at the top end of the table as struggling is becoming too regularly occurence which the two Davids said they didn't want us to do?

MrsGrey

I think it is important to distinguish between different types of struggling. There's struggling to stay up - which overall, we're not- and then there's struggling to get good results consistently throughout the season. The latter is hard to avoid. All teams except those who end up top 6 have periods where they struggle to get points which they might be expected to get, or that fans might hope they would get.

So I don't agree with the premise in the last bit of your post, fortune ;ok

sweepy23

Bilic should be given more time. Agree that his selection is questionable but overall he has done little wrong.

imagelost

sweepy23 said:

Bilic should be given more time. Agree that his selection is questionable but overall he has done little wrong.

Are you sure
Europe league was so poor ,, I can't see i how it could be any worse?

sweepy23

Image, how long have you followed West Ham?

It could be a lot worse ;ok

sweepy23

In all seriousness, Bilic’s teams sometimes seem to have never played together before and sometimes click beautifully. I’m hoping it will get better soon.

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

I can't see them getting rid of him, as long as we're out of the relegation spots it's the SA situation all over again

imagelost

Sweep
All my life
Am 56
Was at villa park lost to forest
At Oldham lost by lots
At Blackburn , climb out, went to working men's club
At Barnsley, climb out , same again
And so on

imagelost

Yes it's true ,,, its harder to get of ground then is to get in
Lol
I even had climb out of orient's ground ,but I must say the spuds was there to ;weep

imagelost

But I can not forgive billic , European cup , it was so rubbish, and one he didn't even turn up.
Gutted
I wanted him to do well,

sweepy23

I agree. Europa was so poor and we’ve waited so long for it.

Putney_Hammer

When there is a manager like Ancelotti out there with no job surely after seeing yesterday’s performance the board should be doing all they can to get him, especially now we have a billionaire with a stake in the club surely paying Slav off would be the best thing to do, but they won’t and we will regret it big time.

grey_til_I_dye

If we got Ancelotti in for Slav, how long does anyone honestly think he would stay with us?

A year? Two? Then he'd be off to one of the big boys, and we'd be no better off.

In Slav we trust.

MarkNobleLocalHero

In Slav we trust.

Not any more I'm sorry to say. No faith in him whatsoever.

I see he makes a positive point of his substitutions again. Those players (except Lanzini perhaps?) were available to play from the start. He certainly could have/should have brought on Masuaku and Sakho earlier.

Barney

Depends on how serious the owners are about getting to the next level. I agree he or any other top manager would not stay if there was not ongoing investment but I am also convinced that Bilic will take us no where even with more investment. he has not got it tactically for me.

OutcastLondoner

I didn't look at the starting line-up and think it would struggle. It had the same problems in midfield that ended 4-4-2 as a formation, compounded by our players being awful. Antonio clearly shouldn't have started though.