Slaven Bilic named as West Ham Manager (09.06.15)

IronHerb

You know when you say something and instantly regret it? Well.......

Pearces_Left_Foot

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11685/11012294/robert-snogdrass-hits-out-at-under-fire-west-ham-boss-slaven-bilic

Not very complimentary of Slav

grey_til_I_dye

And not very honest either.

We all saw him play a lot on the right, and pretty much all thought he was rubbish there.

A wide right player who'd sooner pass off to a young full back than take on his player or make the cross?

No loss whatsoever.

thornburyiron

It definitely isn't complimentary and certainly not totally honest but it doesn't come as a surprise to most of us as it just reinforces the view that Slav doesn't really know what he's doing.
There's been a mountain of posts regarding players being played out of position and his tactical naivety.

ASLEFshrugged

"Every time I played I was on the left. I don't know why he did it"

At West Ham he played on the left 5 times, on the right 7 times, in the hole twice and once as striker.

"I have played on the right or behind the striker at Hull City all season'." "But I'd only filled in on the left on a couple of occasions"

Partly true, at Hull last season he played either on the right and or in the hole but the previous season he played 8 times on the left.

It seems Mr Snodgrass is suffering a bout of selective amnesia. Nurse!!!!!

grey_til_I_dye

Snodgrass' debut v Citeh:

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

Was it Slav's fault he kept giving the ball to Byram over and over rather than cross the ball or do something himself, too?

secrethammersfan

http://www.the42.ie/robert-snodgrass-3571930-Aug2017/?utm_source=twitter_self

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

Wouldn't pay the slightest big of attention to him

As mentioned earlier played equally on the left as the right and behind/as a striker and he was awful in every single game regardless

He dont have the pace or the quality to make an impact.....let's be honest his hull form was his best in a 10 year career and previously he's never really been anything more than a championship standard player

OutcastLondoner

Even more glad he's gone now.

Pearces_Left_Foot

Makes you wonder why we signed him in the first place, glad he has gone not glad we wasted 10 mill and 60k a week in wages on him ;angry

NEoldiron

WHU-Champo

"He dont have the pace or the quality to make an impact.....let's be honest his hull form was his best in a 10 year career and previously he's never really been anything more than a championship standard player"

Who, then, recommended we buy him and for £10m at that? ;hmm

grey_til_I_dye

NE

Jan window is always a sellers market. We needed an experienced body, and if he could have reproduced his Hull form would have done for the 2nd half of the season.

NEoldiron

Grey, yeah I realise that, but do we know whose choice he was?

PrestonHammer

I can say for definite, it wasn't me.

tomkinsworldclass

Really disappointing by Snodgrass to go public, especially as he is still technically a WHU Player.

SuzanneClaret

Agreed. Given that he has been very professional up until now.

IronHerb

Except in a footballing sense where has been very amateur.

tomkinsworldclass

Wonder whether Bilic will fire back or play it diplomatically? Kinda hope he savages Snodgrass after his comments. ;lol

baracks_a_hammer

I'd rather he said nothing at all and just focussed on the (considerable) job in hand

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

So, is this turning into the same sort of situation as BFS had?

Owners won't sack, but won't invest either? Little bit worried about spending funds when the guy won't be with us long term?

Or is everything just fine and I'm being a bit paranoid ;wahoo

Huttonhammer

How can Bilic fire back at anybody . Snodgrass may have got some facts wrong but basically he is saying that Bilic doesn't know what he's doing and looking at how the current team is playing the facts back Snodgrass up.
Snodgrass suffered the same issue that nearly all players we sign have . After a while (some take longer than others) Players lose their form , are out injured all the time or just want to go elsewhere. The club is a joke at the moment on and off the pitch.
As mentioned before there seems to be a nasty undercurrent within the club that has been there for a while and nobody seems to know how to sort it out.

grey_til_I_dye

Personally I think the club is fine.

The nasty undercurrent is among some of the fans, imo.

Huttonhammer

Grey

You would say that if we lost every game this season.

So the club is fine 3 defeats 10 goals in , players not performing . Team playing awful but everything is fine at the club.

You are very quick to have a go at anyone who is not 100 percent behind the club are you david gold in disguise?

MrsGrey

Huttonhammer said:

After a while (some take longer than others) Players lose their form

Unlike at other clubs where players stay in form all the time?



Just explain to me how Snodgrass 'lost his form' when he moved to West Ham? It's not like he was Messi. You are writing your own narrative, it seems to me.

Have you seen his goal record? I think it is more accurate to say he reverted to his usual form when he moved to West Ham, after an untypical purple patch in the previous half season at Hull.

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

Can't blame the fans

We've been smashed twice and the only fight we have showed this season ended with us being stupid and losing as always

10 goals conceeded and 2 goals scored

Everyone can see the quantity of players that have left that the squad is now dangerously thin

The club has barely spent anything almost breaking even with both spend and with wages despite the extra income we got from the OS

Blame the fans if you want grey but we left our home of 100 years so that we could "compete with the best" and it's only gone downhill since then

Pearces_Left_Foot

You can't judge the teams after 3 games we need around 10 imo to see how the new players bed in . All teams go through bad patches and yes I am not happy with how we are playing or have been playing last year. Bilic needs a major reaction in the next four games hopefully with players back and fitter after the international break we can go on and turn this miserable start around. I think the press is sensing blood and bigging up every negative story around the club at the moment. Bilic gets his four games and I hope he does enough with them that we can start getting some positivity back around the club if not then I think he has to go.

Huttonhammer

If it was his usual form he reverted to as you say then why did we buy him. Who are our scouts? You have just highlighted a major problem then we have .
We keep buying players who are rubbish and there are lots of them , who exactly is responsible for that?

My view is and I don't blame Snodgrass . The club has a problem. What about Sakho , Valencia , Payet all good players who lost interest are they all wrong why did they all want out ?

grey_til_I_dye

Hutton

You are very quick to have a go at anyone who is not 100 percent behind the club are you david gold in disguise?

If you can't manage to discuss things without making personal comments, don't post.

Colour me stupid, but I thought fans were meant to be behind the club.

grey_til_I_dye

Champo

I have no problem, and no hesitation, in blaming a section of our fans for the vitriol and nonsense they spew.