Slaven Bilic named as West Ham Manager (09.06.15)

iron_pants

Been away for a bit - been another difficult season to endure but we have to back Slaven. Last season was so much fun and we can't just lose patience, something clearly isn't right (not like we can blame ref decisions like last season) and maybe it takes a humiliation for the club to pick itself up from.

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

Alderzzz spot on.

Others - no he hasn't lost the dressing room (sigh).......IMO

MrsGrey

Last season:

There was a gap of 8 places between our highest (2) and lowest (10) points in the table over the season.

We finished 7th, 3 places above our lowest position.

Our longest run without a win was 8 weeks.

At the end of that, we were at the lowest in the table we were all season.

MrsGrey

I don't know what conclusions we can draw from that, really.

Except that lots of stuff can change during the season, and there are good runs and bad runs. And high points and low points. ;puzzled

I'm sure some were questioning whether Slav should be sacked during that dry run.

IronHerb

There were some questioning whether Slav should have been appointed at all ;hmm

McHammer

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38214382

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

good

claretandbluesky

A good statement and one that any good club would put out. It is of note I think just how much Diddy Dave has matured in his public communications. I seem to recall when he arrived there was a brashness and a leaning towards the more outspoken type of chairmen communication, this is a mature more experienced message however.

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard

Really?

After the league draw at MUFC he claimed "We've turned a corner"..............

Perhaps he didn't write it then

;hmm

Hammerdublin

Slaven_Cups_His_Beard said:

Really?

After the league draw at MUFC he claimed "We've turned a corner"..............
;hmm

And we did... it was the wrong corner, though...

Ravel49

Slaven Bilic has turned down an offer from Rio Ferdinand to become West Ham 's defensive coach

Expat_Hammer

Yeah, but only because Julian told him too ;lol

IronHerb

Obviously Rio has been flooded with offers hence his punditry for BT.

NEoldiron

Having listened to his analyses on games, I think Rio could be a very good coach. He expresses himself well (we can forget "th"s) and has enormous knowledge of the game as evidenced by his playing career.
Julian Dicks can hardly be said to be having a good season. ;biggrin

Lukerz

Anyone know what Dicks is currently offering the management?

OldCastleSwift

Slaven_A_Laugh_Lukerz said:

Anyone know what Dicks is currently offering the management?

A fight in the car park?

SuzanneClaret

;lol

chicagohammer

I think that is the problem with having Jules in place, his style of defending, whilst passionate and undoubtably effective 20 years ago is far less suitable to the modern game.

Feel I may be staying the obvious here ;hmm

IronHerb

I don't see him having much influence. He coaches to Slavs brief, not his own.

TwistandShout

Slaven_A_Laugh_Lukerz said:

Anyone know what Dicks is currently offering the management?

This is what i don't understand. At times on Saturday half of the players were strolling round. I am surprised Julian Dicks would find that acceptable, but didn't see him on the sideline telling them different ;hmm

IronHerb

But on the field that's what Noble should be doing isn't it?

SuzanneClaret

Yes it is.

alderz

I thought the rule is that only one member of the coaching team is allowed in the technical area at the same time?

SuzanneClaret

It is.

And Dicksy is not SBs number 2 so there would be no reason for him to ever be in the technical area.

OldCastleSwift

m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38241283

Not really helping with the pressure, boss...

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

Just saw the article on SSN about what's wrong with west ham

Saw the bit at the end about a league high 10 goals conceded from defensive errors, if we hadn't conceded them 10 we'd be 6th....

I'm not saying we should be 6th as we have been so poor, but the manager is just being let down by these professional players who all have experience making stupid decisions that he on the touchline can't do anything about

Think the first thing we need to stop so if is playing out from the back, we arent good enough to do so

Lukerz

Funny how we aren't the only side struggling.

Look at Leicester. Their fans are saying exactly the same. Champions last year and, yes nobody expected them to be anywhere near that this season, but from 2 defeats all season and only losing Kante (who was a big player) to where they are now.

Mahrez has done a Payet (well even worse). Vardy? Heard a stat yesterday that Mahrez has not completed a pass to Vardy since mid September.

Fans phoning in saying the players aren't trying, embarrassing etc. Some even said last night Ranieri will be gone come Feb.

They've lost to Sunderland, Watford, WBA and drawn with Boro in their last four games. 5-0 loss last night.

These things happen. Hero to zero. Then there's Chelsea. Zero to hero.

Slav will get it right. We suck it up and take the hit of an underwhelming season. Then hopefully sign some quality in the summer.

alderz

I just did some looking at the defensive error stats on Squawka, and I don't think that this is something new.

According to Squawka, we've made 8 defensive errors, 6 of which have led directly to a goal conceded. That's 75% of defensive errors being punished with a goal. After 14 games, that's 0.57 errors per game, and 0.43 goals conceded per game due to a defensive error. On top of that, we've conceded 4 penalties, 3 scored. If you include these, it puts us up to 0.86 errors per game, and 0.64 leading to goals.

Last season, we made 20 defensive errors 14 of which led to a goal conceded, 70%. After 38 games, that's 0.53 errors per game, and 0.37 goals conceded per game due to a defensive error. Including penalties (8 conceded, 6 scored), this puts us up to 0.74 errors per game and 0.53 conceded.

Once you add the penalty stats in, you can see that we are making slightly more errors per game, and being punished slightly more. However, this has been an issue for Bilic's entire reign, so, arguably, he should have addressed that in the summer.

The issue, to my mind, is that we scored 1.71 goals per game last season. This season it's 1.07. Last year, our defensive frailties were hidden because we were scoring freely. Without the goals this season our defense has nobody to bail them out.

Yeoldhammer

Slaven_A_Laugh_Lukerz said:

Funny how we aren't the only side struggling.

Look at Leicester. Their fans are saying exactly the same. Champions last year and, yes nobody expected them to be anywhere near that this season, but from 2 defeats all season and only losing Kante (who was a big player) to where they are now.

Mahrez has done a Payet (well even worse). Vardy? Heard a stat yesterday that Mahrez has not completed a pass to Vardy since mid September.

Fans phoning in saying the players aren't trying, embarrassing etc. Some even said last night Ranieri will be gone come Feb.

They've lost to Sunderland, Watford, WBA and drawn with Boro in their last four games. 5-0 loss last night.

These things happen. Hero to zero. Then there's Chelsea. Zero to hero.

Slav will get it right. We suck it up and take the hit of an underwhelming season. Then hopefully sign some quality in the summer.

That's if we don't go down.

Lukerz

Ald ;ok

And that is down to the striker. Last year we started with Sakho, went to Carroll, then Jelavic, then Valencia. All these played for a period of games consecutively, not one or two.

This year it's gone from Zaza to Fletcher.