Summer Transfer Window 2023

EXETERHAMMER

Gallagher, Scott and I would take Divok Origi

Lukerz

Forgot about Paqueta 😂

OutcastLondoner

Funny thing I just checked on Squawka's comparison thing. Paqueta beats McTominay on pretty much every defensive metric.

https://www.squawka.com/en/comparison-matrix/?compare=8Es51Ry9PZyfKGuZ9NLwu

Lukerz

I wouldn’t see McTom as defensive anyway. He’s a driving, box to box player.

Slacker

jay_in_cpt said:

Slacker said:

Fortuneseeker said:

Slacker said:

Lost me there mate.🤷🏻‍♂️

It's not really doom & gloom on here it's only how people perceive it to be! They are entitled to feel there is no call for concern but there are those of us who are concerned about David Moyes and his apparent inflexibility when it comes to who we should buy. I do feel all is not well atm.

Yeah you’re right. It’s like Glee Club on here isn’t it?

Slacker, of course no one is forcing your arm to read all this, unless one of the mod’s have nothing better to do, just saying 👍🏻

Nah, I enjoy reading it, it’s informative and always cheers me up. Can’t wait for the new season match threads to start, they’re such fun as well.

EXETERHAMMER

If we end up with McTominay I will be gutted

OutcastLondoner

I think it has to be him or JWP, not both of them. Neither are the DM we need to replace Rice's core work.

Lukerz

Palhinha is the only player we should be going for, but we aren’t going to pay the fee.

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

I’d be really underwhelmed with McTominay. Not sure about Ward-Prowse, probably just whelmed in his case.

buffybegood

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes said:

I’d be really underwhelmed with McTominay. Not sure about Ward-Prowse, probably just whelmed in his case.

As much as I don't particularly rate McTominay, and given that I think he'll find things harder with the protection (from bookings) of a Man Utd badge on his shirt, I'd prefer him to JWP, especially if the latter is going to cost more than £20m.

steve

But jWP seems like a nice guy ,Where Mctominay does not

Hamstew

Nah I'd have JWP. He's an upgrade on Soucek and his set pieces are on point.

Kuchinghammer

My reading of the tea leaves is that we're buying JWP. So the next question is which other midfielder/s would suit us best? Answer IMO is Alvarez, probably at the end of the window.

buffybegood

Kuchinghammer said:

My reading of the tea leaves is that we're buying JWP. So the next question is which other midfielder/s would suit us best? Answer IMO is Alvarez, probably at the end of the window.

I agree that JWP is looking likely (unfortunately), but imo he's just too slow if he's paired with Alvarez. I know he covers a lot of distance, but I feel a lot of it is chasing the play, which tends to mean he can't have an impact, almost how Noble was playing in his last couple of seasons.

BerlinHammer

Id be happy with mcsauce or jwp if they are a soucek replacement. Would still prefer Gallagher as he can carry the ball forward. But the DM is where we really need to get it right. I cant see palhinha coming now, but we can hope.

BubblesNeverDies

Lukerz said:

Palhinha is the only player we should be going for, but we aren’t going to pay the fee.

Lukerz, are you forgetting the injury he sustained on Sunday?

OldCastleSwift

BubblesNeverDies said:

Lukerz said:

Palhinha is the only player we should be going for, but we aren’t going to pay the fee.

Lukerz, are you forgetting the injury he sustained on Sunday?

I don't think the severity of the injury has been confirmed. There was talk of a dislocated, or separated shoulder, but that was subject to a scan which I haven't seen any updates on. If it's minor ligament damage then it might only be two or three weeks out which wouldn't prevent a move.

alderz

BerlinHammer said:

Would still prefer Gallagher as he can carry the ball forward

On this, there’s a big difference between the types of ball carrying you get from Gallagher and He Who Shall Not Be Named. Gallagher’s carry distance and # of carries is pretty low, but he is very good at driving into the box. He operates a lot higher up the pitch than both Soucek and HWSNBN.

Ravel49

Saints turn down West Ham bid for Ward-Prowse
Southampton Director of Football Jason Wilcox has confirmed the club rejected a bid from West Ham United for captain James Ward-Prowse.
Sky Sports News has been told the bid was worth £20m - £17m initial payment plus £3m in performance related add-ons.
Wilcox says the club don't have to sell but will consider the right offer.
West Ham are expected to go back in with an improved bid.

Hamstew

What a pathetic bid

Slacker

Don’t believe everything you read.

MrsGrey

Hamstew said:

What a pathetic bid

Please check out my eBay listing and feel free to offer loads more than the current opening bid :-)

OldCastleSwift

Hamstew said:

What a pathetic bid

It's certainly low, if accurate.

Leicester have set the precedent really; they reportedly got £40m for Maddison and £38m for Barnes, so Southampton pricing JWP at something similar isn't that outrageous really. He's got a couple of years on the others, but he also has more England caps than them combined.

I would imagine a deal could be done for £28-30m. Sell-on value would probably come into play, too.

EXETERHAMMER

As usual we will play around and then we lose out. I wish we would put in a bid that is at least reasonable.

ASLEFshrugged

I very much doubt we'll see Palhinha at West Ham

Fulham obviously don't want to sell and have set the £80m price to discourage offers but on top of that reports are that Liverpool want him to replace Fabinho who is yet another player supposedly going to Saudi Arabia

If its a choice between us and Liverpool I think we all know where any player is going to pick

Pochettino has said that Gallagher is in his plans so he's going nowhere

As for Alex Scott Wolves are willing to meet Bristol City's asking price of £25m after having a £22m bid rejected but apparently they need to sell first in order to raise funds

I'd be happy with Alvarez and JWP

OldCastleSwift

Reports yesterday suggested we're out of the Alvarez race because of his agent's demands. Might be something that changes towards the end of the window.

I don't think that DM position will be filled until very late on. I think the club will be happy to wait out on McTominay's value, Alvarez's agents etc.

Hamstew

Agree. We'll be going into our first bulk of games with Downes as our DM. Let's hope he's up for it.

OldCastleSwift

I don't think we'll do that, to be honest.

I think Soucek will be the DM with Paqueta and Fornals (or JWP maybe) ahead of him.

OutcastLondoner

I see people moaning about a rumoured £38m buyback clause for Borges and not being worth it. Obviously, you'd ideally want to control what you sell him for if he plays really well but it would be one of our best profits on sales in recent times (maybe ever, not counting Rice?) and if he plays well enough for City to want him back then surely it's better to have him for a while than not have him because we turned down their condition? Football Twitter can be so stupid.

PrestonHammer

Maybe we could tweak the buy back clause to matching any other offers. That way we might get a bit more.