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I honestly don't think Moyes would see West Ham to Celtic as a significant step down at this stage of his career. And maybe he'd relish the challenger of trying to get Celtic to qualify for the CL group stages on a regular basis.
We were knocked out of the Europa twice by Astra Guirgu before the end of August and didn't feel like we'd been in "proper" European competitions
In recent seasons Celtic have been knocked out of the Champions League by Midtjylland and Cluj
Scottish football is a two team competition, Celtic and Rangers would be Championship level at best
Going to Scotland is admitting you aren't good enough for the Premier League
Some stories yesterday were suggesting that Moyes' fate hangs on the result of Wednesday's game, which is madness, IMO. Winning a one-off game will not suddenly make Moyes’s perceived failures and weaknesses disappear; likewise defeat will not delete his perceived achievements and strengths.
He's been at West Ham long enough for the board to know whether they want him to continue. His tactics, his management style, his ambition and his ability should all be clear and obvious to them. If they're happy with him, keep him and let it be known that he's seeing out his contract.
To delay the decision for another week, or two weeks, or three weeks, is, as Kuching says, going to increase the risk of potential replacements being employed elsewhere.
Wow!
If they've decided to sack him, then I agree that shouldn't be made public until after Wednesday.
However, the impression I get is that they're still not sure about what to do. The fact they haven't said they're keeping him on might suggests that they're not, which I guess we'll find out from Thursday.
But if we win, do they sack him and then invite him back for the open top bus parade? Or wait till after the parade to sack him?
I just hope that they've made their decision, and if it's to replace him then I hope they're already talking to potential replacements. I'm just not convinced that they have.
But then this is West ham, so we should assume it is all a disorganised mess ...
Personally I hope we win on Wednesday and Moyes decides to give in to the lure that Celtic would (probably) be for him, making most happy ... until the replacement is named!
Utterly ridiculous.
7th Europa League semi
14th Europa Conference League final
Good luck any manager coming in topping that in three full seasons. In a years time we’ll be having the same conversations with a different name.
The inability to play a game outside of all hands on deck and lets hope we get a counter attack breakaway and dont concede much (as opposed to acknowledging we aren't skilled enough to keep the ball and pass it forward well).
It's about the style of play. I do believe we got high up in the league twice because of certain factors (discussed lots) and now most teams find it easy to play us.
As for getting to the final.... The competition is obviously lower grade than the Europa last year (and we were limping when performing heroics in the Europa until it just caught up with us). Dont get me wrong, I'm chuffed we are there. However, I dont want it to be a mask for whats gone on this season and a chunk of last.
With Rice most likely going we totally do need to decide one way or another what approach we will take next season. If we stick with Moyes we will have to address a few things and actually hope he can get us enough results with his style. I'd obviously love to know what targets (player wise) we are interested in and that list of players should be an obvious indication of what way we'd want to play. That comment itself poses the question as to aren't there players that can play good possession football and cater to the counter attack too? Yes, and I'd like to know which targets the club think are applicable.
Or... We have or should already have approached a new manager and be keeping it on the low until after the final. If so, then the same thing applies in terms of players to bring in and players we already have that would fit into the new managers style(s).
"I've never even considered it."
“Through my years I have been linked with lots of jobs at different times in my career but I have to say I am really happy at the moment and settled where I am.”
https://www.thewesthamway.com/2023/06/02/im-happy-settled-moyes-dismisses-hammers-exit-speculation/
If you aren't one of them then it seems like a high risk strategy to say you are going to beat them at their game with less expensive, less talented players.
I guess it depends on expectations? For me, most important is to survive in the division and hope for a good position, cup run etc. I am less worried about the tactics and nuances of play. If we perform well, I love to see it but not at the expense of the result.
I trust Moyes, based on my preferences. I can completely get that if you have a different view of risk or different preferences you might want a different manager.
I do get the whole “survival at all costs” mentality, but if all we want to do is grind out results and finish mid table forever and maybe have a cup run every few years, what’s the point? We aren’t going to win the league, or much of anything, realistically. So I want to at least enjoy watching us play, personally.