The Transfer Window

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  • edited August 2022
    Our transfer window has been good so far.
    However, I am seriously concerned about our LB situation. Although Masuaku needed to move on for him personally and the team, he was cover for Cresswell.
    We must have a new LB within the next week or two.
  • Johnson is cover for Cresswell, not Masuaku, but we do need a new LB.
  • Our transfer window has been good so far.
    However, I am seriously concerned about our LB situation. Although Masuaku needed to move on for him personally and the team, he was cover for Cresswell.
    We must have a new LB within the next week or two.

    He wasn't really cover for Cresswell, Johnson would definitely have played ahead of Masuaku. I agree we need a LB (a starter, ahead of Cresswell), but loaning out Masuaku doesn't really impact LB cover imo.
  • edited August 2022
    I have to disagree that Masuaku was not cover. Johnson has ended up being cover at RB, LB and CB (in a back 3).
    We absolutely need to replace Masuaku with a proper LB and not a LWB
  • edited August 2022

    I have to disagree that Masuaku was not cover. Johnson has ended up being cover at RB, LB and CB (in a back 3).
    We absolutely need to replace Masuaku with a proper LB and not a LWB

    We needed a proper LB regardless of whether Masuaku stayed or went; the fact that he's gone doesn't really affect anything (at LB) imo.
  • He was at least an option. We have 3 full-backs 5 days before the first game of the season. Worrying to say the least.
  • edited August 2022

    We have 3 full-backs 5 days before the first game of the season. Worrying to say the least.

    I completely agree, but Masuaku would never be the answer, regardless of what the question was 😂🤣😂
  • The thing is Johnson’s only cover if he’s not first choice RB. Whether it was because of Coufal playing with an injury or not, he pushed him for that spot the whole of last season and has been given the number 2 shirt. If to cover LB we need to push Johnson to the left and bring in Coufal, that could be a serious weakening if Coufal plays like most of last season.

    We definitely need a left back but I’m quite confident letting Masuaku leave is because they have someone lined up. And if they do, that’s a really good window in my opinion.
  • I think it's reasonable to think Coufal will be better than he was for the bulk of last season now that his injury has been dealt with, at least until we see otherwise. Johnson needs to bring a big improvement to his crossing to threaten Coufal's place just yet imo.
  • We definitely need a left back but I’m quite confident letting Masuaku leave is because they have someone lined up.

    I think we all expected a striker to be signed when we sold Haller, so I won't be holding my breath...
  • I hope you are right Outcast.
  • He was at least an option. We have 3 full-backs 5 days before the first game of the season. Worrying to say the least.

    Funny, as our oppnents and current champions Man City technically have only Walker and Cancelo for their full back options yet they are arguably have the best squad in Europe
  • Fair point.
    But West Ham still need a LB
  • He was at least an option. We have 3 full-backs 5 days before the first game of the season. Worrying to say the least.

    Funny, as our oppnents and current champions Man City technically have only Walker and Cancelo for their full back options yet they are arguably have the best squad in Europe
    That's quite amusing given how much Pep has spent on full backs since taking over.

    We definitely need a left back but I’m quite confident letting Masuaku leave is because they have someone lined up.

    I think we all expected a striker to be signed when we sold Haller, so I won't be holding my breath...
    I know what you mean but I do feel this window has been different - there's been a logic to who we've been chasing that wasn't there in the past. Of course, I won't be surprised if I'm wrong, but I'm less worried than when we sold Haller.
  • Brentford are signing Mikkel Damsgaard, for £16m. That's an insanely good signing.
  • This may or may not be transfer related, but Diop has posted this on Instagram:





    I know he's been linked with Fulham, but could this suggest a return to Toulouse?

  • The article also mentions Luke Thomas. And French outlets are reporting that Onana has agreed personal terms with West Ham and our next bid could be accepted by Lille.

    If over the next few weeks we can bring in Cornet, Onana and Thomas, then we're a RW/ST away from a great window. Even Januzaj on a free would be decent. Throw in Diallo on loan and it's a 10 for me.

    Areola
    Coufal Zouma Aguerd Thomas
    Onana Fornals Rice
    Bowen Scamacca Cornet

    Fab
    Johnson Dawson Ogbonna/Diallo Cresswell
    Downes Lanzini Soucek
    Januzaj Antonio Benrahma
  • alderz, Question is IF we have silly money to bid for Zielinski then why didn’t we bid for Damsgaard? We weren’t interested isn’t the answer 👍. 😉
  • The article also mentions Luke Thomas. And French outlets are reporting that Onana has agreed personal terms with West Ham and our next bid could be accepted by Lille.

    If over the next few weeks we can bring in Cornet, Onana and Thomas, then we're a RW/ST away from a great window. Even Januzaj on a free would be decent. Throw in Diallo on loan and it's a 10 for me.

    Areola
    Coufal Zouma Aguerd Thomas
    Onana Fornals Rice
    Bowen Scamacca Cornet

    Fab
    Johnson Dawson Ogbonna/Diallo Cresswell
    Downes Lanzini Soucek
    Januzaj Antonio Benrahma

    Should at least get past Kidderminster in 90 minutes with either of those line ups. 😂
  • IronHerb said:

    The article also mentions Luke Thomas. And French outlets are reporting that Onana has agreed personal terms with West Ham and our next bid could be accepted by Lille.

    If over the next few weeks we can bring in Cornet, Onana and Thomas, then we're a RW/ST away from a great window. Even Januzaj on a free would be decent. Throw in Diallo on loan and it's a 10 for me.

    Areola
    Coufal Zouma Aguerd Thomas
    Onana Fornals Rice
    Bowen Scamacca Cornet

    Fab
    Johnson Dawson Ogbonna/Diallo Cresswell
    Downes Lanzini Soucek
    Januzaj Antonio Benrahma

    Should at least get past Kidderminster in 90 minutes with either of those line ups. 😂
    Team B crashes out of the ECL to Viborg.
  • alderz, Question is IF we have silly money to bid for Zielinski then why didn’t we bid for Damsgaard? We weren’t interested isn’t the answer 👍. 😉

    I think it probably is the answer though
  • Apparently Damsgaard just had a bad season. Could have just been one of those Euro stars. But Brentford like their Danish players.

    He also reminds me of Dominic Cummings.
  • edited August 2022
    BBC journo Fraser Fletcher on Twitter yesterday
    Maxwell Cornet extremely attracted by West Ham option. Wants to play in Europe and that will have a big factor on desicion, West Ham offer of £25 million package also biggest.

    Newcastle still in race though but looking decent for hammers

    Just noticed that Cornet wasn't on the bench against Huddersfield last Friday and checking back he doesn't seem to have appeared in any of Burnley's pre-season friendlies

    If we do sign him he might need a few weeks to get fit
  • edited August 2022
    Rumours being reported by GFFN (France) that we’ve had an offer accepted for Onana & we’re hopeful of signing him in time for City. 🤔
  • edited August 2022
    I really think Moyes wants to move to a 3 at the back system. Aguerd is a real ball playing centre back, and the apparent. desire to sign another CB before letting Diop go tells me he wants at least 5 centre backs available to him. Then with the links to Kostic and Cornet, it feels like he wants that flexibility of a left wing back / winger.

    I think he wants to have a system of like:

    GK: Fabianski / Areola

    DCR: Zouma / Dawson
    DC: New CB / Ogbonna
    DCL: Aguerd / Cresswell

    WBR: Coufal / Johnson
    WBL: New WBL / Johnson

    MCR: Soucek / Onana
    MCL: Rice / Downes

    AM: Fornals / Lanzini / Benrahma

    STR: Bowen / Vlasic
    STL: Scamacca / Antonio

    Which I personally find very exciting. If you get the right wing back in on the left then that side has loads of potential. Also - the height 😍. Imagine Fornals / Bowen putting the corners into Scamacca, Rice, Soucek and three centre halves.
  • Lukerz said:

    Rumours being reported by GFFN (France) that we’ve had an offer accepted for Onana & we’re hopeful of signing him in time for City. 🤔

    Did we not hear that after our last bid?

    Won't lie don't know anything about him but he's got to be a a talent if we're spending €40mil on a 20 year old with not THAT much first team football
  • Not wanting to ruin your chips alderz, but there are still a couple of week points there, IMO. And ironically it's on the right side, given how much effort we seem to be putting into fixing the left side of our team.

    Johnson is a good defensive full back, but I don't think he's suited to a wing back role. He's basically the antithesis of TAA. If 3-5-2 is the long-term plan, I think we'd need a better option on the right.

    And you've also got Vlasic covering Bowen. He was played out of position on the left last season and struggled, so I don't think he'd fair any better on the right. Plus I honestly don't think he's cut out for PL football. He had a couple of decent cameos in pre-season, but just doesn't look to me to be physically or mentally strong enough to succeed in this league.

    If we could somehow get Broja on loan (unlikely, but not impossible), then our front line would be seriously good.

    Two of Scamacca, Antonio, Broja and Bowen in a front two, or if Moyes went with 4-3-3 he could have Bowen or Antonio/Cornet either side of Scamacca/Broja. The options would be incredible, and with (hopefully) 50+ games this season, everyone would get minutes.

    Fantasy stuff, I know.
  • edited August 2022

    Lukerz said:

    Rumours being reported by GFFN (France) that we’ve had an offer accepted for Onana & we’re hopeful of signing him in time for City. 🤔

    Did we not hear that after our last bid?

    Won't lie don't know anything about him but he's got to be a a talent if we're spending €40mil on a 20 year old with not THAT much first team football
    I think this (potential) signing highlights the difficulty of our current situation.

    We want to break the top six and our January bids (Diaz, Nunez, Phillips, Raphinha), if you believe they were genuine, suggest that we're trying to bring in top players to do that, but these players ended up at Liverpool, City and Barca. We were never realistically in with a chance. So what we need to do is find these type of players one move earlier; Onana may not be worth £35m now, but if we don't get him at an affordable price, we run the risk of him becoming a £60m player over the next 12/18 months and he becomes out of our reach.

    I would imagine this is a Newman recommendation, and I think we'd be paying for potential more than his current standing in the game. Of course it could go either way; he could become another Patrick Vieira, or he could become another Didier Ndong. But where we're at the moment, these are risks that we have to take to try to identify top class players just before they actually get there.
  • BBC journo Fraser Fletcher on Twitter yesterday

    Maxwell Cornet extremely attracted by West Ham option. Wants to play in Europe and that will have a big factor on desicion, West Ham offer of £25 million package also biggest.

    Newcastle still in race though but looking decent for hammers

    Just noticed that Cornet wasn't on the bench against Huddersfield last Friday and checking back he doesn't seem to have appeared in any of Burnley's pre-season friendlies

    If we do sign him he might need a few weeks to get fit
    Company said Cornet is unfit, not injured.
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