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  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    OCS, I hope you are wrong as I had hoped we would get serious upgrades at LB & CF.
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    If Liverpool paid £85m for Nunez in the summer how likely is it that Benfica would have let him go for £47m in January when they still had a chance of winning the Primeira Liga and were through to the last 16 of the Champions League?

    Sounds a bit iffy to me
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    ASLEF, Surely not! That would imply that we aren't making proper bids for players & it's a ploy by GSB to avoid criticism from the fans when we don't buy anyone.
  • SlackerSlacker
    OldCastleSwift said:

    Bazshuayi said:

    If true, for the sake of 8M, you've got to question if we really want him? In todays terms thats peanuts (if true of course)

    I don't believe Sullivan wants him, because of the cost, and I don't think Moyes wants him, because he's not Broja.

    I can believe Newman is aware of him and has made the recommendation, but this deal won't go anywhere. After being burnt by Haller, there's no way we're spending anywhere near £42m on a player with zero English league experience, IMO.

    If it's not Broja, it'll be Brereton-Diaz or Dennis for significantly less.

    Raum was never a serious option, for similar reasons. Same goes for Sosa. If we get a new left back, it'll be someone like Charlie Taylor or, at a push, Luke Shaw on loan.
    There’s a lot of certainties in that post.Not opinions but statements.
    Nobody can know any of that.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    Fortuneseeker said:

    OCS, I hope you are wrong as I had hoped we would get serious upgrades at LB & CF.

    I hope I'm wrong too. But there's nothing about Scamacca that makes me think he's a Moyes player.

    Raum was never going to happen for a number of reasons, but we do need a big upgrade in that position. Options out there, but again, I just can't see the board spending big on a full back.
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    Slacker said:

    OldCastleSwift said:

    Bazshuayi said:

    If true, for the sake of 8M, you've got to question if we really want him? In todays terms thats peanuts (if true of course)

    I don't believe Sullivan wants him, because of the cost, and I don't think Moyes wants him, because he's not Broja.

    I can believe Newman is aware of him and has made the recommendation, but this deal won't go anywhere. After being burnt by Haller, there's no way we're spending anywhere near £42m on a player with zero English league experience, IMO.

    If it's not Broja, it'll be Brereton-Diaz or Dennis for significantly less.

    Raum was never a serious option, for similar reasons. Same goes for Sosa. If we get a new left back, it'll be someone like Charlie Taylor or, at a push, Luke Shaw on loan.
    There’s a lot of certainties in that post.Not opinions but statements.
    Nobody can know any of that.
    There's an "I don' t believe", "I don't think", "I can believe" and "IMO". I think four statements that what he's saying is about his belief/opinion is enough to clarify that OCS is not imposing what he's saying on anyone else.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    Thanks Outcast 👍

    In other news, several sources stating that we've bid for Filip Kostic, Frankfurt's LW/LWB.
  • SlackerSlacker
    OutcastLondoner said:

    Slacker said:

    OldCastleSwift said:

    Bazshuayi said:

    If true, for the sake of 8M, you've got to question if we really want him? In todays terms thats peanuts (if true of course)

    I don't believe Sullivan wants him, because of the cost, and I don't think Moyes wants him, because he's not Broja.

    I can believe Newman is aware of him and has made the recommendation, but this deal won't go anywhere. After being burnt by Haller, there's no way we're spending anywhere near £42m on a player with zero English league experience, IMO.

    If it's not Broja, it'll be Brereton-Diaz or Dennis for significantly less.

    Raum was never a serious option, for similar reasons. Same goes for Sosa. If we get a new left back, it'll be someone like Charlie Taylor or, at a push, Luke Shaw on loan.
    There’s a lot of certainties in that post.Not opinions but statements.
    Nobody can know any of that.
    There's an "I don' t believe", "I don't think", "I can believe" and "IMO". I think four statements that what he's saying is about his belief/opinion is enough to clarify that OCS is not imposing what he's saying on anyone else.
    That’ll be along with “This deal won’t go anywhere “,” no way we’re spending “,” it’ll be”,”Raum was never a serious option “, “ same goes for Sosa”, “It’ll be …”.
    I’d say they seem like statements.
    My point is (again) is that yes it’s great to have opinions but nobody knows for certain, least of all people posting on a fan’s forum whose only source of “ information “ is an internet connection and a smart phone.
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    So does someone have to put IMO before every single statement? Enough of it was qualified to be clear that the whole thing was his thoughts.

    Yes, no one knows anything for certain. This thread is a category called transfer rumours and speculation. Everyone enters this thread knowing that anything discussed here in uncertain. When it becomes certain, there will be a thread announcing the players arrival. The uncertainty and the various opinions on here are a large part of what keeps this forum moving through the summer.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    So now Lingard isn't coming where are we going to find an attacking midfield to score 10 goals a season? I think he was probably our best chance of doing so and those 10 goals make all the difference.
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    edited July 2022
    IronHerb said:

    So now Lingard isn't coming where are we going to find an attacking midfield to score 10 goals a season? I think he was probably our best chance of doing so and those 10 goals make all the difference.

    Do we need another AM if we're getting a striker

    Not sure offence was our problem, we were 7th top scorers in the league with 60...Leicester sat 5th with 62

    Whereas we were 9th best defence conceding 51

    Bowen and Antonio are pretty likely to get to double figures, Benrahma/Fornals will be good for 5...Vlasic you'd imagine will get more opportunities and looks sharp in preseason

    Then the Broja/Scammaca or even Diaz/Bayo etc. Signing well (surely) make
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    IronHerb said:

    So now Lingard isn't coming where are we going to find an attacking midfield to score 10 goals a season? I think he was probably our best chance of doing so and those 10 goals make all the difference.

    Soucek, maybe? If he's allowed to play the role he did the season before last.

    If we're serious about Onana and somehow manage to get him, maybe we play a midfield three where he sits and allows Rice and Soucek to push on.
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Scoring goals hasn't been a problem since Moyes took over, we scored 60 last season (7th) and 62 the season before (6th)

    If anything its our defending that needs attention, conceded 51 and 47 (9th both seasons)
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    Reports are Leicester need money before St Brendan can spend so why not make a bid for Maddison?

    OCS, I agree. We are unlikely to really challenge unless we buy a few more top players who are the equal of some of our rivals. There is value out there but will DM be interested in those players that could be part of the problem. Are we about to enter the "I am willing to wait for Broja deal to happen" before we make any real efforts to sign anyone else?
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    edited July 2022
    Personally do think we need an AM. A direct, pacy player who offers something different on counter attacks. Bowen's not bad on this but we need another option who is just a bit quicker. I think with a more natural striker Benrahma and Fornals will have a better output as well in terms of goals and assists but we could still do with someone who offers a different way of playing when we need it.

    Jacob Steinberg kind of suggests Kostic might also be a winger option https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/jul/22/west-ham-bid-eintracht-frankfurt-filip-kostic-leicester-luke-thomas?CMP=share_btn_tw

    Aslef, how do those stats look in the second half of the season? I feel like we struggled more with goals later on but maybe that's Antonio's performance that has skewed my perspective.

  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    Lingard aside, have we been linked to any midfielder that fits that criteria?

    I don't remember Kostic being a pace merchant; good crosser, sure, but not particularly quick.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    1st 19 games 34 - 25
    2nd 19 games 26 - 26
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    I think his speed is at least comparable to Bowen's - apparently reached 34.9km/h top speed which is pretty high, if not quite Adama Traore numbers.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    SKY reporting we are in advanced talks over Scamacca.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    edited July 2022
    OldCastleSwift said:

    Lingard aside, have we been linked to any midfielder that fits that criteria?

    I don't remember Kostic being a pace merchant; good crosser, sure, but not particularly quick.

    Most league assists in Europe since 2018-19

    1. Thomas Müller – 64
    2. Lionel Messi – 47
    =3. Filip Kostić – 42
    =3. Trent Alexander-Arnold – 42
    5. Jadon Sancho – 41
    6. Andy Robertson – 38
    7. Ángel Di María – 37
    8. Kevin De Bruyne – 36
    9. Joshua Kimmich – 35
    10. Mohamed Salah – 32

    Not sure if pace is a prime requisite when it comes to it.

  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    edited July 2022
    It seems that Kostic and Scamacca are with the same agent, Alessandro Lucci.

    Allegedly we're having negotiations for both at the same time

    I suppose it saves on the tea and coffee bill...
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    Kostic to cross the ball & Scamacca to head it in. Sorted.
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    Isn't Kostic a LWB exclusively, not a LB?

    He was a massive threat against us but it was as wingback

    Interested to see if the club are hoping he can adjust to LB (as he's already gone from winger to LWB) or perhaps a change in formation to a back 5?

    He seems a terrific player though
  • HamstewHamstew
    Even though I have no idea who he is and I would still like Broja. I think this is the correct thing to do. Moyes obviously rates him so that's fine and we can't afford to wait around for Chelsea.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years said:

    Isn't Kostic a LWB exclusively, not a LB?

    He was a massive threat against us but it was as wingback

    He's variously described as a LW - LWB - LM
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    IronHerb said:

    OldCastleSwift said:

    Lingard aside, have we been linked to any midfielder that fits that criteria?

    I don't remember Kostic being a pace merchant; good crosser, sure, but not particularly quick.

    Most league assists in Europe since 2018-19

    1. Thomas Müller – 64
    2. Lionel Messi – 47
    =3. Filip Kostić – 42
    =3. Trent Alexander-Arnold – 42
    5. Jadon Sancho – 41
    6. Andy Robertson – 38
    7. Ángel Di María – 37
    8. Kevin De Bruyne – 36
    9. Joshua Kimmich – 35
    10. Mohamed Salah – 32

    Not sure if pace is a prime requisite when it comes to it.

    For us I think it is. Kostic has very encouraging stats and I'm in no way against him signing, but I don't think he's a Lingard-esque player (i.e. pacy, direct, counter-attacking), which was Outcast's original point and what I do think we're lacking.

    The links to Sarr have resurfaced again, so maybe he's an option in that respect. He's certainly quick, but I'm not sure whether he has the finesse of Lingard.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    He's a WB with stats equal to TAA. That'll do for me, as long as we replace Antonio to take advantage of it.
  • alderzalderz
    Apparently it’s being reported that we will be signing Scamacca imminently
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Football Transfers
    @Transferzone00
    🚨 BREAKING: West Ham are about to sign Gianluca Scamacca; only final details missing. The deal will be closed for €40M.⚒️⭐🇮🇹 #WHUFC

    I love the "only final details missing" part. So that'll be fee, wages and medical then.
    What could go wrong?
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    Does anyone reckon a few might still be leaving or are we actually going to have a good strength in depth in the squad? Need a proper new LB. Kostic midfield option that media have reported DM wants. CDM would be nice plus Striker.
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