The Next Transfer Window

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  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    Two of the types of deal that have put us in this situation...
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    alderz said:

    The club is in a really terrible negotiating position now though. Selling clubs know that the owners absolutely must sign someone that improves the team. That means selling clubs can eke more and more money out of us in negotiations, knowing we need to sign someone

    But all clubs buy players to improve the team don’t they?

  • ScotHammerScotHammer
    On a more positive note, the U23s did well again yesterday, so West Brom’s immediate future seems bright 😭
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited September 2020
    Tarkowski is the sort of level signing we should aspire to.

    Not an Anderson type player, but a solid, experienced (but still young) PL performer who may fancy a change of scenery & will immediately improve our starting 11.

    We must have had positive vibes from the club & player to sell Diangana & immediately bid £27m. Maybe we have been quoted a price.

    I would be very happy if we signed him & a decent LB.
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    Why would Burnley sell to us? Even at a sensible price, which our bid isn’t.

    And why would Tarkowski want to come?

    Seems like a silly bid to try and appease the fans.
  • Expat_HammerExpat_Hammer
    Lukerz said:

    Tarkowski is the sort of level signing we should aspire to.

    Not an Anderson type player, but a solid, experienced (but still young) PL performer who may fancy a change of scenery & will immediately improve our starting 11.

    We must have had positive vibes from the club & player to sell Diangana & immediately bid £27m. Maybe we have been quoted a price.

    I would be very happy if we signed him & a decent LB.

    That would play havoc with my FF team, so it's a no from me =)
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited September 2020
    Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes said:

    Why would Burnley sell to us? Even at a sensible price, which our bid isn’t.

    And why would Tarkowski want to come?

    Seems like a silly bid to try and appease the fans.

    1) because £30m is a lot of money to any bottom half/mid-table football club with no fans attending.

    2) change of scenery, higher wage, maybe fancies a bit of time in a City, been at Burnley a while now.

    3) the owners will know that sale will have gone down badly before selling, so will need something up their sleeve to cushion the blow
  • alderzalderz
    IronHerb said:

    alderz said:

    The club is in a really terrible negotiating position now though. Selling clubs know that the owners absolutely must sign someone that improves the team. That means selling clubs can eke more and more money out of us in negotiations, knowing we need to sign someone

    But all clubs buy players to improve the team don’t they?

    Of course they do. But the club have now explicitly said that they WILL reinvest the money into the team. If I’m Burnley, I know West Ham have hamstrung themselves and I can bully the negotiation.

    If they hadn’t sold Diangana and not sold anyone, they could have said that they didn’t have money. Now if they don’t strengthen the defence... man, I cannot imagine the reaction.
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    Lukerz said:

    Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes said:

    Why would Burnley sell to us? Even at a sensible price, which our bid isn’t.

    And why would Tarkowski want to come?

    Seems like a silly bid to try and appease the fans.

    1) because £30m is a lot of money to any bottom half/mid-table football club with no fans attending.

    2) change of scenery, higher wage, maybe fancies a bit of time in a City, been at Burnley a while now.

    3) the owners will know that sale will have gone down badly before selling, so will need something up their sleeve to cushion the blow
    Burnley are a better side than us and better suited to how he plays. He has a better chance of playing for England if he stays at Burnley, a team where he excels and where they actually know how to defend.

    Plus I assume he was playing that day when the fans started running on the pitch. Can’t imagine he views us as a lovely club that he’s desperate to play for.
  • yoyoyoyo
    Maybe he's an admirer of G&S people skills? Maybe not :(
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    edited September 2020
    Is Tarkowski a good signing though?

    He looks great for Burnley but who doesn't, their style of football is all about the system and they specialise in defence

    I'm sure Everton thought they'd be getting a great deal for Michael Keane, but hes been a compeltely different player once he was out of that system

    I cant see the logic here, it's too big a risk

    Think you could see that once Soucek was added alongside Rice we stopped shipping goals left right and centre....and the centre backs both were doing very well because for the first time they had protection in front......but we were still always exposed down the left because of Cresswell and Masuaku, even though Fornals was giving them so much support they still cut us open

    £30mil on Tarkowski, if not more seems a waste of limited resources in an area imo we are set

    We have 3 senior centre backs. Balbuena was pretty pants last season, but the season before he was fantastic

    Also Akinola (21), Cardoso (20), Alese (19) and Baptiste (17) as 4th choice. Surely one of those could fill in.

    And if Moyes is convinced, why not make a move for Duffy or Holding etc. They have prem experience just like tarwoski, but the financial risk is almost zero

    Tarkowski screams to me as a "marquee" Gold and Sullivan signing. Going to splash out almost all our budget, and be left weak in other areas
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Balbuena would become an excellent defender if you gave him to Dyche for a few months
  • whupathmanwhupathman
    who would sell a player to us given we cannot make the payments of the ones we bought last year. The board are doing a 'we tried' PR job IMHO
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    For so long now we've tried to say we can just solve this or that problem with a better player in this position, without solving the problem of systems that don't work. We Hernandez will be the striker we need but don't play in a way that suits him. We think Anderson will create chances but expect him to run past players when he likes to pass through defences (and needs the right runs to do that). We repeat the Hernandez mistake with Haller. Tarkowski would be the same if we continue to be exposed on the left.

  • Expat_HammerExpat_Hammer
    Outcast, under Moyes and Big Sam we tended to find more balance and fitness in the side, and hopefully they might see sense, but I'm not holding my breath, and keep Moyes on after next year.
  • HamstewHamstew

  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    Shock! Why would he move?

    They have a stable team, finished above us the last few years and play to his strengths

    The only reason hed move to us is money

    And the board knew this, they just made a token bid
  • HamstewHamstew
    edited September 2020
    We won't be getting anyone in. Not decent anyway. We got away with it last season and now our squad is weaker. Plus others teams around us are strengthening.
  • stevesteve
    Dont forget we DONT have Roberto that must give us an exter 10=12 points more then last season
  • imagelostimagelost
    steve said:

    Dont forget we DONT have Roberto that must give us an exter 10=12 points more then last season

    Your only had good as the last person you signed
    Bye
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    That was Soucek. Hmmm
  • imagelostimagelost
    IronHerb said:

    That was Soucek. Hmmm

    That was luck
    Today?
  • imagelostimagelost
    IronHerb said:

    That was Soucek. Hmmm

    Honeymoon period
  • buffybegoodbuffybegood
    edited September 2020
    I'm beyond disgusted with G&S. If the club is that desperate for the fee raised by selling Grady, here's an interesting fact. The club's accounts show that from the 11/12 season up to 18/19 inclusive, the club was charged £18.7m in interest on shareholder loans, the vast majority of which, if not all of it, will have been charged by G&S from the club they claim to love, and which not only earned them millions in the shabby way our ground was sold out from under us with lies and false promises, but will also allow them to double, treble or goodness knows what multiple their money when they sell up.

    They're screwing us all ways, they're running the business dreadfully, they're then needing to loan the business money because they're so useless, they're charging interest on that money, and they'll make a fortune when they sell us because we've got a shiny (but completely unsuitable) stadium in a less "real" location which will make the club appear bigger than it actually is.

    They'll make their money when they sell us, they really shouldn't be charging us interest on money they're loaning the club as well, most of which is necessary due to their own ineptitude in the transfer market anyway, and the fact that they took us down as well.
  • BubblesNeverDiesBubblesNeverDies
    edited September 2020
    Can we make a bulk bid/purchase for Iceland's defence - they seem to be doing a good job against England =)
  • imagelostimagelost
    buffybegood said:

    I'm beyond disgusted with G&S. If the club is that desperate for the fee raised by selling Grady, here's an interesting fact. The club's accounts show that from the 11/12 season up to 18/19 inclusive, the club was charged £18.7m in interest on shareholder loans, the vast majority of which, if not all of it, will have been charged by G&S from the club they claim to love, and which not only earned them millions in the shabby way our ground was sold out from under us with lies and false promises, but will also allow them to double, treble or goodness knows what multiple their money when they sell up.

    They're screwing us all ways, they're running the business dreadfully, they're then needing to loan the business money because they're so useless, they're charging interest on that money, and they'll make a fortune when they sell us because we've got a shiny (but completely unsuitable) stadium in a less "real" location which will make the club appear bigger than it actually is.

    They'll make their money when they sell us, they really shouldn't be charging us interest on money they're loaning the club as well, most of which is necessary due to their own ineptitude in the transfer market anyway, and the fact that they took us down as well.

    Bunch of Arthur daily’s
  • imagelostimagelost

  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    edited September 2020
    Wolves have just spent £35mil on Fabio Silva, an 18 year old striker with 1 senior start in his career
  • alderzalderz
    WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years said:

    Wolves have just spent £35mil on Fabio Silva, an 18 year old striker with 1 senior start in his career

    Beast on Football Manager. Will he be the new Kylian Mbappe or Freddie Adu?
  • claretandblueskyclaretandbluesky
    That's what you call a gamble - exciting if you have the money to gamble with.

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