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That reaction from Noble says it all
The board dont have a clue
And if they are going to sell....at least make it an amazing deal that gives us no reason to argue
This has made me sick to my stomach....£12mil for a kid with so much potential
Wondering whether this has been coordinated among some players now?
The players have been talking about how excited they are to play with him this year
And then we sell him.....
Getting sadder and sadder this.....he was one of ours....
And the disgraceful offer of £20mil for tarkowski, they literally think we dont see through then by now...never in a million years is that going to be accepted....and WHERE IS THE LB WE ACTUALLY NEED
My first feeling when I got in from work & saw ‘Diangana fee agreed between West Ham & WBA’ was shock. I wanted Grady to stay & was excited to see him develop this season.
The reality is we are going to get the best part of £20m for an academy product who will not be a guaranteed starter every week & is still not proven at PL level, money that we need in order to sign players in areas or the squad that are in desperate need of reinforcements.
I think the comments from Noble &, particularly, Wilshere are poor. This is not about the club not respecting Grady. It’s about generating funds from a player who has an interested party willing to pay £20m for him, when we can’t shift other squad members. If he tears it up at WBA, we will look idiots. If we reinvest it well & he struggles to make an impact on the PL, we will think we got a great deal.
Let’s not make out the club disrespected him. Stupid comment from Wilshere. The club paid him handsomely, nurtured him as a kid & has now sold him to a club where he will play PL football every week.
People need to just let the dust settle, including our own squad members.
All the best Grady. Have a cracking career & make the club regret this decision in 3 years time.
In the meantime, let’s sign some players!
Its is £12mil, at least for right now....if he hits all of his add ons it may get to £18mil, but we can reinvest £12mil right now....Where does that get us
At the bare minimum we should've got at least £20mil like Eze....but given we are a prem club and weve essentially strengthened a relegation rival it should be closer to £25mil
And if WBA couldn't afford it....then he stays simple as
You cant sell a player a week before the season starts when you've used him in every game, the manager and players have al come out and said they are looking forward to using him this year
And to top it all off, we bid for a #1 CB.....Which we dont need....they are clowns and havent a clue what they are doing
I dont want much....but what I was looking forward to is having players who play for the Crest and actually cared for the club...something Grady would've done
So if the options are ‘sell Diang & sign nobody’ or ‘sell Diang & reinforce the defence at CB & FB’s’ what would you choose?
The question is why does it come to a choice, but we can’t do much about the owners & their lack of finance. If that is the choice, it’s pretty simple for me.
I would have loved Diang to stay but we need defenders. We have not struggled to score under Moyes - without Diang - but we need to stop letting them in.
I don't agree CB is the one position we need. We have 3 senior centre backs and plethora of young players who can deputies there. However, we have championship standard left backs
Compare that to the fact we had 2 natural left wingers, now down to 1 and that 1 doesnt look like he wanta to be here...so we will be reliant on attacking midfielders to accomodate that position
And if the only option is 'sell Diangana & buy a defender' then get market price for him.....dont sell him on the cheap which weve done here
If we got £25mil for him I'd say fair enough, but we didn't. We sold on the cheap
So yes, if the option iz selling Grady for £12mil to invest in defenders, I'd have said no, keep him unless WBA want to give us a deal worth seriously considering
The Tarkowski bid alone explains everything that weve done in the past that has led us to this sale
People are assuming we have nothing in the budget. We probably do. It’s just not enough to sign anybody of note.
We will make another bid for Tarkowski. It will be closer to £30m.
We let in too many but I think it's really simplistic to say the CBs were the problem. We might need new back up but I don't think a CB is the highest priority at all. We need to make sure we have an effective defensive system and team unit, otherwise we'll have he same problems with a Tarkowski. An LB is needed because it's where we've often had lapses and also because it's a weakness in attack (and potentially even the key to unlocking Anderson).
I think keeping Grady and buying no-one may have been the better option. Three senior players have basically called out the owners tonight, and for Noble to do that you can guarantee he's done so with the backing of the squad.
Is a new LB and CB going to repair the damage to fans and players morale that selling Grady has done? I'm not convinced. And what of Moyes? If he's sanctioned the sale, clearly the players aren't happy; if he hasn't, then the board have undermined him massively.
Whatever way you look at it, it's a horrendous mess we find ourselves in one week before the season kicks off.
He wanted to stay, he had a long term contract, he was on small wages and WBA were desperate to get him....
So I say again, if they gave us an offer we couldn't refuse then fair enough...but I cant see how anyone doesnt think weve en majorly ripped off
No backbone/clear project..or rather just survive, that's it....next level..yeh, my foot.
Why go for CB, can't agree with Luke, sorry...
Have adequate players there..Makes no sense, unless 1 of ours leaving.
Noble, says what he feels, fair play, very few would disagree.
Would be keen to hear Mr Moyes view on all this, or is he not allowed to be honest.
Really feel that from years ago of being many fan's 2nd favorite team, to have become the team other fans laugh at and can't stand ( & yeh, I know many won't care about other fans, nor do I, just stating what I feel ..
IMO we are club in serious decline.
I am also gutted about Diang going but the reaction is like we have just sold him off the back of a 20 goal season. He hasn’t played PL football for two years & got 8 goals last season. I wanted him to stay, & progress, but let’s see what we do with the money. I said a while ago that it seemed we only had 3 assets worth selling; Rice, Diop, Diang. Who would you rather went?
I don't however agree, CB in my opinion is not our main priority, but we all have opinions.
I'd say Full backs and a striker comes before CB,, but that's my opinion.
Most feel Cresswell is past his best, and Arthur is simply not good at defending..
I don't mind Fredericks, but again many feel his defending is poor, Ben, looks decent...
Still feel a LB & Striker are needed before a CB, or are you happy with Haller and........er, Antonio as our only real options, unless you consider an unproven player ( Silva ) and Yarmelonko playing in a different position?
Re Diang- Think that 90% of people are annoyed about this, having just had a great season in the championship , think it would be fair ro say that we were all keen to see him play for us, 8 goals as not a striker, that's nothing to dismiss, and 7 assists as well ( inlcuding missing matches ), yeh unproven in the PL, but has speed, direct and considering the reaction from the majority of fans, his own captain and fellow players, think that says something.....
Time will tell, I believe though we will regret this decision...
But I think a lot of people on social media simplify football as quite a simple game. I have seen so many ‘why did we not sell Anderson, Lanzini instead’ comments on Twitter. Football is not like Fifa 20. It’s a lot more complicated.
Make no mistake, this decision will have been made by the board and management. So a week before the season, we have a public feud between players & management/board for selling a player to raise funds. It’s not helpful for anybody. Diang was a talented player, but Moyes may well have felt he is ‘ok’, but can be sacrificed.
If Moyes had said ‘keep Grady, I will go with the squad I have’, Grady would still be here. He obvs has sanctioned the sale. So comment like Nobes, whilst they get the juices flowing & encourage a collective pitchfork collection, they are not sensible or helpful, because it is aimed at Moyes as much as it is the owners. We need unity. I would expect a bit better of the captain. Maybe a word in person to David Sullivan & David Moyes to express his & the squads disappointment & asking for an explanation, not a Twitter post.
I will see what the rest of the transfer window brings before slating this decision, & I am not the boards biggest fan either. A better, more balanced squad as a result of this sale, I am reluctantly happy with.
It cannot be anything but.
He’s going to be first choice winger at WBA, playing PL football & paid well. I don’t see it. I saw just as many articles claiming Diang wanted guarantees he would be first choice to consider staying.
If he stays here, he competes with Antonio, Fornals, Anderson, Lanzini (currently).
People are assuming he is going to be successful here, but imagine a scenario where the season starts, he struggles & we think why did we not accept £20m for a squad player?
Just as likely a scenario than him doing well.
You don’t keep young players because they are young, from the academy & want to stay. On that basis we’d have Stanislas, Sears, Hines & Dan Potts still in the 11. Clubs still have to make tough decisions that ultimately will upset those who have relationships from being a kid at the club.
Just to repeat, I am very disappointed Grady is not going to be here (I named my fantasy football side after him), but some of the reactions are knee-jerk.
Personally, the upset I feel about it is because I don’t recognise this club anymore. We don’t play at the stadium I went to as a kid, we don’t play a style that I remember (maybe nostalgically), we don’t give managers time, and we don’t give youth a chance.
I never cared about trophies and stuff because the thing I was proud of about West Ham was that we had something like 6 managers in a hundred years and we always had academy graduates in the side.
I am cross because this, to me, feels like the final nail in the coffin of the West Ham that I fell in love with. Maybe the reaction is OTT or irrational, but so is most of football.