January transfer window 2019/20 season

ASLEFshrugged

Clyne went out on loan to Bournemouth last January although he had actually played for Liverpool in the weeks before he moved.

BubblesNeverDies

We had Edimilson Fernandes, now we're talking about Gedson Fernandes. Anyone else see the start of a pattern? :whistle:

OutcastLondoner

I don’t hold much hope in signing Fernandes. Benfica and the other Portuguese clubs are very good at selling players and they will make negotiations hard.

Hamstew

I predict this window we will sell Diop and buy Joe Allen and maybe Randy with a couple of last minute loans.

OldCastleSwift

Listening to Ex's podcast at the moment. He's said Moyes is planning to go three at the back again against Sheff Utd, so if this is a long-term plan I'd be surprised if Diop was sold under his tenure.

Balbuena, Ogbonna, Reid and, at a big push, Cresswell would be our only CB options in that instance, unless the club have a replacement lined up.

Hamstew

Rice can at there. Paving the way for Sanchez to nail down his position.

OldCastleSwift

I did think about Rice, but no way can we afford to lose him from midfield.

If we bring in a couple of good CMs then potentially Rice could drop back, but I think that's an enormous 'if'.

alderz

I think playing a deep lying DM can be similar to playing an aggressive central CB in a 3. I like Rice more as a midfielder, but I think him playing in that central role wouldn’t take too much from his game.

BubblesNeverDies

In Moyes we trust (to know a little more about team selection than us).

baracks_a_hammer

We won’t be getting any player in of a greater calibre than Joe Allen in this window in any position IMO. Whether we do so in the summer remains to be seen (but I’m sure more likely). I would have liked us to steal a march somewhere by below by being creative (eg trying to buy Jarod Bowen and loaning him straight back to hull), however our owners have no track record of doing something like this. I also think we will end up getting an out of contract freebie or two after 31 Jan because that is most certainly our owners’ style.

ASLEFshrugged

According to ex on Twitter the concern is that Randolph may need surgery, odd that there's doubt about this even though he's been out of action since November!

The only pluses I can see with Joe Allen are that:-

A) he knows what to expect in the Premier League while Fernandes, Berge or Sanson would have to "acclimatise"

better than Sanchez and without Wilshere's injury record.

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

Genuine question, would Allen start over Noble?

Think he plays a bit higher up the pitch but hes similar to Noble in that hes a bit of a jack of all trades and master of none

I agree hell be a solid aqusision but very underwhelming and surely he'll be replaced in the summer anyways

Bazshuayi

Clynes been injured for months and wont be fit by the end of Jan. So if we even think about him it'll be a loan for an unfit player. We already have those

Bazshuayi

IMO Joe Allen is comfortably better than Mark Noble in all areas apart from taking a penalty

baracks_a_hammer

If the best we are going to achieve is Joe Allen, I genuinely wouldn’t bother. Just do nothing and wait till the summer. Moyes should be able to get us to 45 point min with what he has got.

alderz

Bazshuayi said:

IMO Joe Allen is comfortably better than Mark Noble in all areas apart from taking a penalty

I disagree with this so hard.

Noble is massively underrated by our fans as I think we have taken him for granted. Allen’s a good alternative, a good rotation option, is better than a fit Sanchez and unfit Wilshere, but that’s all.

Bazshuayi

Its all about opinions mate and I am totally cool with your hard disagree. I just think Allens a better footballer. He has better vision, passing, tackling and engine as he can be in the opposition box, creating further back or defending all game. I also get that people knock Noble and the lack of pace and the sideways passing stereotypes come out. I'm not knocking him as such. I just think Allens an all round better player

baracks_a_hammer

I don’t believe Joe Allen is a Noble upgrade at all and why I think if this is all it will be, we may as well not bother.

Bazshuayi

Its not happened yet and probably won't. I had a Mrs Merton memory flashback all of a sudden, 'Lets have a heated debate' :biggrin:

ASLEFshrugged

Nathan Holland has joined Oxford Utd on loan until the end of the season while ex says we've been offered ex-Man U RB Rafael Da Silva - currently at Lyon.

Pearces_Left_Foot

Randolph reported to have failed medical ! a second one is being lined up

jay_in_cpt

Don't think Allen is a bad player, just that no other PL team has come in for him since Stoke have been dwindling in the championship says a lot for me, but as already said above better than the mu......Carlos Sanchez anyday

baracks_a_hammer

Pearces_Left_Foot said:

Randolph reported to have failed medical ! a second one is being lined up

A second medical? What would be the point in doing that? :hmm:

steve

So they can have a third ……….best of 3 :thumbsup:

Yeoldhammer

If you fail a medical that should be it....

Hamstew

Not that simple. £4m for a crocked Randy versus a fully fit Roberto is a tough one.

EXETERHAMMER

The word underwhelming is being used for Joe Allen, indeed I felt underwhelmed with the appointment of Moyes.

Perhaps we need more underwhelming signings that succeed rather than exciting ones that fail.

MrsGrey

baracks_a_hammer said:

Pearces_Left_Foot said:

Randolph reported to have failed medical ! a second one is being lined up

A second medical? What would be the point in doing that? :hmm:

Well, I assume it's not a replication of the 1st one, as indeed there'd be no point. But a more specialised investigation into a specific issue could be useful.

Ravel49

BREAKING NEWS

Chelsea have made an offer for Benfica midfielder Gedson Fernandes.

The offer is thought to be for an 18 month loan with an obligation to buy for £55m, provided he plays in at least 50 per cent of the games during the loan spell.

West Ham United’s latest offer is for an 18 month loan with an obligation to buy for £33m – the percentage of games to trigger the obligation is less than Chelsea’s.

The decision will rest with Benfica and the player.

thornburyiron

Chelsea have bid for Fernandes for 18 months loan and option to buy. Higher purchase price but triggered by higher number of games.
That’s us done then.