The Transfer Window 2: Electric Boogaloo

MrsGrey

The Mirror says Wilshere will be confirmed on Monday.

Cuz1

Still believe his passing is the best in premier league and if we can keep him fit we will have one player on our hands

Yeoldhammer

were signing an all time injured 11 for the treatment room.

Such a bad idea and again a trivial signing.

This window has been bang average. Only Diop and Fredericks seem like stern buys so far.

Lukerz

Well that’s 66% of our signings ;hmm

baracks_a_hammer

Well I guess it’s at least good we have signed two players who we hope can immediately improve the first eleven?

Yeoldhammer

well we are hoping ? Fredericks and Diop both seem like scouting options with decent appearance records for their previous clubs and are young enough to keep improving. Whether they make the grade or not we don't know as French football and Championship to Premiership football is a different kettle of fish. But it at least makes sense !

Pengeman

I say "no" to the rumored Payet return. He behaved disgracefully when he left and damaged team morale. We can't risk the same again.

SuzanneClaret

So are any of theses actual confirmed - holding the shirt up with Dave Allen - signings?

grey_til_I_dye

Sorry, yeold, but I struggle to see where your negativity is coming from.

We've made 3 signings that improve us on last year.

If we were to sign Wilshere, that would be another one.

If he 'only' makes 28 starts for us next year, like he did last year, we've still got a hell of a player for a free.

MunichHammer

Pengeman said:

I say "no" to the rumored Payet return. He behaved disgracefully when he left and damaged team morale. We can't risk the same again.

While that may be true, none of us were in behind the scenes. Now if he did sign again that would mean the Daves (who were involved in Payet the first time around) gave their ok and think that it is a good idea. No way do I believe they would intentionally cause havoc in the dressing room and the club by signing a disrupting influence.

grey_til_I_dye

Munich

I don't think the issue would be in the dressing room; I suspect a lot of the players would welcome him back.

I don't think there would be a problem on the pitch; he's still a quality player.

My issue with him is that, imo, he showed utter disrespect for the club in the way he behaved, and I don't think that merits a second chance.

SuzanneClaret

I wholeheartedly agree.

alderz

I believe strongly in second chances, personally. I’d have him back for sure. I’m getting more and more sure that I would all the time.

Pearces_Left_Foot

If we sign Yarmolenko ,Bruno Fernandes and this Paraguay centre back plus Wilshere I don’t see why we would sign Payet he’s 31 would cost 25m I would rather spend the money on younger players . Pellegrini seems to be targeting players in mid 20,s and under .

grey_til_I_dye

alderz

I agree with you in principle, but it's not like he's a kid who was badly advised; it's a stroke he's pulled more than once.

MrsGrey

alderz said:

I believe strongly in second chances, personally.

He did the same thing before, at Saint Etienne (refused to train), to force a move. So you could argue that WE gave him his second chance to be better, and he messed that up.


I don't think he is going to change, so believe 'taking him back' would just end up with us being treated badly. Again.

Bazshuayi

I think the quandary is that if he says and does the right things then the majority of us would most likely accept it and keep a sceptical eye on him for a time.

He does have previous though but I also understand the second chancers who can picture a midfield with Lanzini, Payet and Wilshere in it feeding Arnie and co...

This fence I am sitting on is starting to creek.

P.s So we've got another defender from Paraguay coming? Whats up with the defender recruitment? Who's going? Who's potentially first choice? Diop, with the money he cost, I assume will be one of them...

Pearces_Left_Foot

Be a nice problem to have lots of defenders vying ,for first team spots instead of us trying to find fit bodies . I think Reid,s days are numbered and maybe rice will do a dm role until we see how Pellgerini lines his team up maybe a back 5 Cresswell/ Arthur left wing back Fredericks /zabs on right with Diop ogbonna Paraguay fella as cb ;hmm

Expat_Hammer

Or 8 defenders when we play the big six ;biggrin

IronHerb

But what's to stop him propelling us up the league with his performances?

MunichHammer

Grey - I am not so sure about players welcoming him back. What I am saying, however, is that if his employers thought it was a good idea then I would be happy to trust their judgement on that.
On the other hand I can't see any of my former employers giving me another go after burning bridges and effectively trashing their office. I very much doubt the Daves are that forgiving, especially as they know what would happen if it didn't work out.

Adam

My Liverpudlian friend showed me an Everton fans’ forum, to show me that most of their ‘summer transfer window’ thread was about us! ;lol

Made me laugh

Yeoldhammer

grey_til_I_dye said:

Sorry, yeold, but I struggle to see where your negativity is coming from.

We've made 3 signings that improve us on last year.

If we were to sign Wilshere, that would be another one.

If he 'only' makes 28 starts for us next year, like he did last year, we've still got a hell of a player for a free.

No "You think" i dont think Fabianski is an improvement.

Wilshire takes up a probably 6 figure salary crushing our wage packet for someone who has being blighted by injuries for the majority of his career. and its a hell of an "IF" he actually can play a number of games for us. I agree with Dean Ashton on Wilshire we shouldn't be anywhere near this.

IronHerb

On that basis we need to sell Lanzini on his return.

IronHerb

Oh! Fabianski not an improvement on Hart? Really?

Yeoldhammer

not an improvement on Adrian.

MrsGrey

I thought Dean Ashton was saying what was in the best interests of JW, not West Ham, as his reason for being against the transfer?

(Goes to find article in case I got it wrong. Edit, yes ;ok)

Bazshuayi

I think, from memory, he cited a slower paced, more technical league suiting Jack after his injuries

MrsGrey

Yeoldhammer said:

No "You think" i dont think Fabianski is an improvement.

Not an improvement on an on-loan Joe Hart?

Really? OK, then. I have to say I think any perm PL standard GK is an improvement.

MunichHammer

Adam - what are they saying?