The new manager hunt (was the Moyes thread) only 3 days to wait...
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IMHO if & I'm praying we do stay up, it has very little to do with Moyes, & more the fact there are 3 worse teams than us.
I think his record so far speaks for itself , those do not lie.
Many might argue he inherited this , that & whatever!, but apart from a few great results it's been poor to be kind...
As far as next season, I'd be happy with a " risk" appointment, as the "safer option " isn't going great guns so far...
Silva , why not.....( & that's not my ultimate choice, but compared to Moyes, for sure )...
Sorry but I think this argument doesn't work. I also think he should be given time. Look what he did at Everton when given time.
Failed at Man U, Sociedad and Sunderland and now is at 25% with us.
If we are going on the distant past we may aswell approach curbs.
Poch hasn't won anything, with a far, far better squad.
Pulis has never won anything, nor has Hughes, Dyche, Howe, Pardew, or the majority of those who have managed PL clubs down the years.
The majority of managers don't have squads capable of winning the PL (let's put Leicester's win down as a blip, rather than a likely occurrence) which leaves 2 realistic trophies: Carabao Consolation or FA Cup.
Traditional top 6 clubs have won 15 of the last 20 League Cups, and 18 of the last FA Cups.
If we are only going to appoint managers who have won a major trophy, we will have a long wait to appoint anyone, imo.
Regarding ManU I would like to compare that to what you wrote about Wenger's successor at Arsenal. Moyes took over from Fergie and a lot of those players were on the wane. Look at what has happened since.
I fail to see how giving him another season will be of any benefit.
Sunderland were not already relegated when he took them on. Man United weren't just hanging onto the top 4 when he took them on. Sociedad weren't relegation candidates when he took them on...
Sorry that also doesn't rub!...
Donkeys years ago, and sadly IMO Moyes is stuck in that era, ancient...
But if that's your belief, fair do's...
But it don't cut the mustard with me
Him to stay, although so far he is our worse manager in how long ;wave
Surely any other 'caretaker manager' would be sacked if they were on about 20% win percentage
Dont see how you can say that Moyes has struggled because it isn't 'his team' yet dont want Silva, who won 8 of his first 9 home games upon arriving despite not having 'his team'
So how is it that our defense is such a shambles?
At the end of the day, let’s address and focus on the task at hand, and that is to stay up.
For me I do not relish DM staying on but I hope and trust that the owners will be looking at all options available to them post season and will make a decision that reflects their desire not one made out of the “devil you know” or “no other choice “ bucket.
COYI
That and we always make errors which led to goals
I mean if you look at the team, it needs massive investment, it really isn't very good. There certainly is a lack of competition for places:
Hart - regressing for a few years now (although I confess to thinking he was a good player)
Zabaleta - see Hart, great pro, legs are gone, questioned his signing at the time
Rice - youngster, bound to make errors due to his age
Ogbonna - consistent and best defender this season (worth building around), but still part of the leagues poorest defence
Cresswell - has been regressing for the past two seasons now, great under Bilic in season one, but very average the last two years, yet still a nailed on starter when fit
Masuaku - talented, but raw, needs more time (is he first choice material, or does he need more bedding in time behind a better LWB?)
Noble - love him and valuable squad member, but been our main CM for the past decade
Kouayte - been on the slide since Bilic's first season, like Cresswell
Lanzini - best player technically, no doubt, but been very poor this season and underwhelmed last too
Arnautovic - star player, worth building around
Hernandez - has contributed with 8 goals, but has super-sub written all over him, doesn't fit the team balance for a side like us when he starts
Then the other key players:
Adrian - loyal performer but has not been able to nail down the No.1 jersey for nearly 3 seasons now (says it all)
Reid - excellent CB when on form, but never fit anymore
Collins - coming to the end of his career
Byram - Championship standard
Evra - finished as a pro
Obiang - jury's out
Fernandes - not ready yet to start
Mario - not good enough for the PL
Antonio - struggles to fit into the XI in terms of where is his best position (RWB, winger, forward), never fit
Carroll - unreliable
Hugill - enough said
I mean if you were selecting players worth keeping going forwards, you'd probably go:
Ogbonna
Reid
Rice (squad player)
Masuaku (squad player)
Noble (squad player)
Obiang
Lanzini
Antonio
Arnautovic
9 players from that list? And two of those are unreliable fitness wise. I mean I wouldn't care if any of the others left in our squad.
The answer may well end up being the same, but IMO, defensive duties are not the sole responsibility of the back four and surely defensive coordinators should be working with the team as a whole.
Ergo, why is it when we have very experienced, defensive coordinators is our defensive record so poor.
It baffles me
That being said, I do not think that such a signing in and of itself would be the magic button solution, we do not have poor players, my conclusion is that our coaching staff do not seem to be able to get the best out of whom we have.
And that, IMO, is the root of the problem.
Who would want to manage 'little ol' West Ham?
He is seemingly at odds with two of our most experienced and highly paid forwards. And another, in Hugill, can’t be too enamoured either, and he was signed by Moyes. Has he even got the squad pulling towards a common purpose? ;hmm