The David Moyes Thread

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  • IronHerbIronHerb
    But that's because last year we were pretty hopeless at times. I wouldn't worry about last year, let's concentrate on this.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    We started off pretty hopeless this year too. After the Newcastle game I thought we might be where WBA are now.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Last year is not relevant terribly. We need to make sure we keep up the momentum to avoid the ignomany of having to play on Thursday evenings next season.
  • LukerzLukerz
    It’s not overly relevant, but I like to see improvement in results. I always work on a basis of corresponding fixtures because if you end up with a ‘profit’, you end up having a better season.

    Sad, I know.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    So many things change though, not just but our opponents. If we were about to play the Villa of last season, anything other than 3 points would have been very disappointing

    However given how Villa are this season, I would still say anything other than 3 points is very disappointing 😂😂

  • BubblesNeverDiesBubblesNeverDies
    Just thought I'd review some of the comments regarding who should take over from Pelle.
    Grey and Jorderz nailed it. I won't comment on anyone else. =)
    grey_til_I_dye said:

    Hope they've got Moyes lined up. Should never have let him go, imo.

    I hate seeing managers sacked, and even more when we are the ones doing the sacking, but our squad is far better than recent performances would indicate, and it didn't look like Pelle knew how to resolve that. His management record with us was point overall, but I think the squad he leaves us with will turn out to he a good one.

    Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes said:

    I thought we were decent and hard-working under Moyes, solid without being spectacular.

    He was given £9M to spend and the squad was poorer then than it is now.

    Get him in on a proper contract, get the team structured and hard-working and give him a bit of cash, and I think he’ll do well.

    Cuz1 said:

    Just hope to god it’s not moyes

    alderz said:

    Moyes would be a terrible choice.

    OutcastLondoner said:

    It'll be crushing if Moyes takes over and this was my only hesitation about Pellegrini going.

    Yeoldhammer said:

    Can't get on board with Moyes myself. Screams of another dinosaur appointment.



  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Light blue touch paper.........
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    edited January 2021
    Be wary of deepfakes people.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    You haven’t quoted any of my opinions, bubbles, but if I plead guilty now, can I get a reduced sentence?
  • yoyoyoyo
    I was really cheesed off after our first 2 games and honestly thought it would be another struggle this season. I feared the drop loomed. I can't believe this turnaround. There were glimpses after lockdown, which is why I felt so deflated after our start. Fantastic achievement so far by the management staff and the willingness of the team. I have humbly eaten my hat many times this season. I am so pleased to be wrong and so far we are way above my expectations. Cheers Mr Moyes, long may it continue
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Hamstew said:

    Our owners are trash and I hate them. But that's just my opinion.

    Some of the historical comments/opinions from back then probably still hold true though..
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Just saw this on the BBC, in their football thread where they intersperse reporting with reader comment...

    "Although Man City have looked impressive, we can't really tell what they're going to perform like without KDB, just from last night's performance. They played an extremely poor West Brom side. Next month is key when Pep has to think about CL v an in form Monchengladbach side, and also league games v Liverpool, Spurs and West Ham."

    (my italics)

    :p
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    What’s more is that Arsenal were not on that list and they play them before they play us

    😳
  • BubblesNeverDiesBubblesNeverDies
    baracks_a_hammer said:

    You haven’t quoted any of my opinions, bubbles, but if I plead guilty now, can I get a reduced sentence?

    Baracks, sorry if you feel left out =) , but your comments were not as damning as the ones I posted. They were more about him making one or two poor transfer decisions, a little fence-sitting more than anything else.
    Would a suspended sentence be ok. ;)
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    So what you are saying is I was more measured and balanced with my opinion than Alderz?

    Remarkable if so.
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    BubblesNeverDies said:

    baracks_a_hammer said:

    You haven’t quoted any of my opinions, bubbles, but if I plead guilty now, can I get a reduced sentence?

    Baracks, sorry if you feel left out =) , but your comments were not as damning as the ones I posted. They were more about him making one or two poor transfer decisions, a little fence-sitting more than anything else.
    Would a suspended sentence be ok. ;)
    Crushed. Definition: To be higher then [sic] you have ever been before.



  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years said:

    I'm loving Moyes at the club

    Since we've moved to the stadium I've had 2 huge issues when it comes to the onfield issues at the club
    1. A lack of fitness. How often were we run off the park. We were last for distance run per 90 and sprint per 90 in like 3 of the last 4 seasons. We were overrun and outmsucled in most games which led to point 2....
    2. A weak mentality. We have lost so many points under Bilic and Pellegrini due to this. We'd go ahead, then panic and capitulate. We have bought and played a lot of players that just look miserable playing for us, and don't want to be here, but continue to ply them week in week out as they are good "on paper"

    Moyes has fixed these 2 issues

    We look as fit as anyone, pressing from the 1st minute to the 90th

    And we never give up, and beside the Brighton game right at the start, we look strong when we are front. You can see fire in the bellies of players, and those that don't show the desire have been dropped and hungry players have been brought in (like fornals who it took moyes while to warm up to after trying anderson/lanzini)

    Moyes has the guys playing like a team, a team where every single person looks like they want to be here

    And we a philosophy
    Defend deep, press when the opposition gets to the half way line and when we get the ball we attack with pace and with numbers

    Even under Slav (and 100% under Pellegrini) I always thought we just put 11 players on the pitch and hoped it clicked, the players never seemed to know what they were supposed to do

    Also his transfers, always hard to judge but by what I've heard from Him and Sullivan, he has been in control of them. And while the were a few attractive options we turned down, I only judge in the players that come in and Bowen & Soucek have been phenomenal. Dont wanna jump the gun on Coufal too soon, but he's looked fantastic so far

    He may not be play the sexiest football, but we finally look like a "team" that's knows what's expected of it and where its going

    With Moyes we can be a safe mid table team compared to the misery of relaegtion battles

    The question for me is if we can have a year or 2 with stable mid table finishes and no drama, can he take us forward, but that's not a question that needs answering now

    Backed Moyes in October and haven't changed my mind since

    Absolutely loving him at the club
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    And one swallow doesn’t make a summer, I will respect what he’s done but reserve judgment till he’s done it next season as well pelle and Bilic had good first seasons let’s wait and see
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    Jorderz right again?

    Shock.
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    Slav took us into Europe after his first season which I am sure Mr Moyes is more than capable of doing.
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    It’s what came after that worries me
  • LukerzLukerz
    Moyes is regularly banging on about this not being a flash in the pan. It needs to be longer term success. I am sure he is as aware as anybody that next season is bigger than this.
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    I think Moyes trying to rebuild a scouting system is the important part here. Bilic's first season success was derailed by a second season where so many signings failed. Even with Payet's meltdown, I doubt we would've struggled so much if we had made better signings. Plenty of them weren't bad on paper but were completely wrong for what we needed.
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    Outcast, I reckon he brought in extra bodies for our Europa League campaign that those "pesky" Romanians derailed twice.
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    We certainly wearnt ready for European football and I don’t think we are now our back up first team isn’t good enough to step up at the moment
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    Cuz, I honestly don't think we can be too choosy about when we next go into a Europen competition, seize the opportunity IF it should become available.
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    The problem was they weren’t right for any competition. Europe would’ve been a reason to get better players.

    We need to keep aiming higher and getting better players to keep Rice. We need to have ambition because he does deserve to win things.
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    Fortuneseeker said:

    Cuz, I honestly don't think we can be too choosy about when we next go into a Europen competition, seize the opportunity IF it should become available.

    Couldn’t agree more and I know it will take a few windows to have the squad to be ready, it was more of a comment to progress in Europe
  • alderzalderz
    I don’t know who hacked my account the day I said that Moyes would be a terrible choice, but they’ve made me look a right wombat
  • Ravel49Ravel49
    Wombat you say....... 🤔 🤔 🤔
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