January transfer window 2019/20 season

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  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    We won’t be getting any player in of a greater calibre than Joe Allen in this window in any position IMO. Whether we do so in the summer remains to be seen (but I’m sure more likely). I would have liked us to steal a march somewhere by below by being creative (eg trying to buy Jarod Bowen and loaning him straight back to hull), however our owners have no track record of doing something like this. I also think we will end up getting an out of contract freebie or two after 31 Jan because that is most certainly our owners’ style.
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    According to ex on Twitter the concern is that Randolph may need surgery, odd that there's doubt about this even though he's been out of action since November!

    The only pluses I can see with Joe Allen are that:-

    A) he knows what to expect in the Premier League while Fernandes, Berge or Sanson would have to "acclimatise"

    B) better than Sanchez and without Wilshere's injury record.
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    Genuine question, would Allen start over Noble?

    Think he plays a bit higher up the pitch but hes similar to Noble in that hes a bit of a jack of all trades and master of none

    I agree hell be a solid aqusision but very underwhelming and surely he'll be replaced in the summer anyways
  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    Clynes been injured for months and wont be fit by the end of Jan. So if we even think about him it'll be a loan for an unfit player. We already have those
  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    IMO Joe Allen is comfortably better than Mark Noble in all areas apart from taking a penalty
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    edited January 2020
    If the best we are going to achieve is Joe Allen, I genuinely wouldn’t bother. Just do nothing and wait till the summer. Moyes should be able to get us to 45 point min with what he has got.
  • alderzalderz
    edited January 2020
    Bazshuayi said:

    IMO Joe Allen is comfortably better than Mark Noble in all areas apart from taking a penalty

    I disagree with this so hard.

    Noble is massively underrated by our fans as I think we have taken him for granted. Allen’s a good alternative, a good rotation option, is better than a fit Sanchez and unfit Wilshere, but that’s all.
  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    Its all about opinions mate and I am totally cool with your hard disagree. I just think Allens a better footballer. He has better vision, passing, tackling and engine as he can be in the opposition box, creating further back or defending all game. I also get that people knock Noble and the lack of pace and the sideways passing stereotypes come out. I'm not knocking him as such. I just think Allens an all round better player
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    I don’t believe Joe Allen is a Noble upgrade at all and why I think if this is all it will be, we may as well not bother.
  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    Its not happened yet and probably won't. I had a Mrs Merton memory flashback all of a sudden, 'Lets have a heated debate' :biggrin:
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Nathan Holland has joined Oxford Utd on loan until the end of the season while ex says we've been offered ex-Man U RB Rafael Da Silva - currently at Lyon.
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    Randolph reported to have failed medical ! a second one is being lined up
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    edited January 2020
    Don't think Allen is a bad player, just that no other PL team has come in for him since Stoke have been dwindling in the championship says a lot for me, but as already said above better than the mu......Carlos Sanchez anyday ;)
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    edited January 2020
    Pearces_Left_Foot said:

    Randolph reported to have failed medical ! a second one is being lined up

    A second medical? What would be the point in doing that? :hmm:
  • stevesteve
    So they can have a third ……….best of 3 :thumbsup:
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    If you fail a medical that should be it....
  • HamstewHamstew
    edited January 2020
    Not that simple. £4m for a crocked Randy versus a fully fit Roberto is a tough one.
  • EXETERHAMMEREXETERHAMMER
    The word underwhelming is being used for Joe Allen, indeed I felt underwhelmed with the appointment of Moyes.

    Perhaps we need more underwhelming signings that succeed rather than exciting ones that fail.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    baracks_a_hammer said:

    Pearces_Left_Foot said:

    Randolph reported to have failed medical ! a second one is being lined up

    A second medical? What would be the point in doing that? :hmm:
    Well, I assume it's not a replication of the 1st one, as indeed there'd be no point. But a more specialised investigation into a specific issue could be useful.
  • Ravel49Ravel49
    BREAKING NEWS

    Chelsea have made an offer for Benfica midfielder Gedson Fernandes.

    The offer is thought to be for an 18 month loan with an obligation to buy for £55m, provided he plays in at least 50 per cent of the games during the loan spell.

    West Ham United’s latest offer is for an 18 month loan with an obligation to buy for £33m – the percentage of games to trigger the obligation is less than Chelsea’s.

    The decision will rest with Benfica and the player.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Chelsea have bid for Fernandes for 18 months loan and option to buy. Higher purchase price but triggered by higher number of games.
    That’s us done then.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    He'll probably get more football with us, and possibly more money, but a better chance of European football next season with Chelsea.

    And would Benfica really risk taking a £22m hit?

    Can only see one outcome here (if Sky are right)
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    May depend upon whether the buy clause hits as soon as the target games are reached or only at the end of the 18 months. If the former then Benfica may feel they’ll get the £33M quite early as he’s likely to play more regular games for us and he may not play 50 for Chelsea.
    In any case I reckon he’d personally choose them over us.
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    Bazshuayi said:

    Its all about opinions mate and I am totally cool with your hard disagree. I just think Allens a better footballer. He has better vision, passing, tackling and engine as he can be in the opposition box, creating further back or defending all game. I also get that people knock Noble and the lack of pace and the sideways passing stereotypes come out. I'm not knocking him as such. I just think Allens an all round better player

    He has also played for Liverpool and Noble hasn't. Not that I am saying that has clouded your judgement. :whistle:
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    Still a big no for me
  • yoyoyoyo
    edited January 2020
    Fernandes.. I wonder what the difference is in wage structure? If it's down to the player then money talks.... a possible decision... more playing time Vs more money?.
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    The extra money will sway Benfica but he wants to join us as 3 of his friends are in the Academy although just being at a club in London may diminish his desire.
  • ianbishoplegendianbishoplegend
    Allen yes please get it done
  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    I dont think for one second that over 18 months Gedson will displace any of the Chelsea midfield and play 50% of the games to provoke that buy clause.

    Loftus Cheek is due back from injury and we have Kovacic, Kante, Jorginho, Mount, Hudson Odoi, Pulisic, Willian fighting for places (not to mention Barkley and Pedro who can't get a look in currently).

    I am assuming that Benfica, if they have their heads screwed on, should know this.

    In any case, the lads an unknown and there's some sort of problem there as he can't even break into their side let alone Chelseas for 50% of the time.

    I'm not saying they are the same player but this strikes me as a sort of Renato Sanchez type of vibe (young player, great potential and wheels fall off for some reason). He's young with something about him that's cast him into their reserves and even if the talent shines through there will surely be a decent adjustment time to the Prem.

    Personally I am pretty much meh on this. But if we get him, my enthusiasm will rise.
  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    Fortuneseeker said:

    Bazshuayi said:

    Its all about opinions mate and I am totally cool with your hard disagree. I just think Allens a better footballer. He has better vision, passing, tackling and engine as he can be in the opposition box, creating further back or defending all game. I also get that people knock Noble and the lack of pace and the sideways passing stereotypes come out. I'm not knocking him as such. I just think Allens an all round better player

    He has also played for Liverpool and Noble hasn't. Not that I am saying that has clouded your judgement. :whistle:
    My judgments not clouded by him playing for Liverpool. It simply shows how influential he was at Swansea to get that move for a hefty TF fee. He was the heart of an excellent Swansea footballing side and its not as if he was a complete failure at Liverpool (he was there for several seasons and signed by the great Brendan Rogers ;) ).

    Also, with the comments in mind that no Prem side came in for him when Stoke got relegated. He was offered a contract and signed it (I am assuming Stoke tried to retain their best players). Whether that was from loyalty or belief they'd bounce back, I would say that any Prem side moving for him with a new contract signed would've had to pay over the odds to get him.

    It's not like I am desperate to get him. But I do think hes an upgrade in terms of what he can/has done profile wise in midfield. Anyone who can retrieve the ball, transition from defence to attack quickly would be welcomed into our midfield (IMO)

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