West Ham’s next boss

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  • PrestonHammerPrestonHammer
    I won't be watching it on tv, just in case I throw it out of the window.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    We will be in the bottom three at Xmas as I can’t see any chance of our winning at Saints
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    Honestly I dont think it matters who we appoint as coach

    We lost our soul and passion the minute we left the Boleyn

    Worst decision this club has ever made

    Granted we got our fair share of beatings there but it was always home and it was always full of passion and fire (even if it was aimed at our own) and that translates to the players
  • MoojorMoojor
    I'm honestly starting to believe that as long we have our current owners it doesn't matter who our manager is we are forever going to continue the way we are.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Don’t think the stadium has anything to do with it. A football pitch is a football pitch and players, especially professionals, should be giving it 100% every game. How many of our team tonight ever played at Upton Park. Three I think it is. All of our relegations (so far) came at UP.
    I’ve no idea why most of our players seem dead on their feet after about 60 minutes when most of the time they’ve been playing at little over a walking pace. We have the slowest most unfit side in the PL and that’s got to be down to the way the manager and his staff train them.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    The stadium move shouldn't have an affect on the players, but the fans were sold European nights under the lights, world class players and a successful club. That was the trade off for giving up the Boleyn.

    What is it? 3 relegation battles in the 4 seasons since we left? Literally no point in us leaving. This board have absolutely done the fans over.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    edited December 2019
    Sums it up when Ljunberg says that he told his side to up the tempo as he could see West Ham were getting tired. Why were we tired after 60 minutes when the game was played at a snail pace.
    There were times in the first half when we were at their penalty area but then back at the halfway line before we tried any real attacking threat.
    Surely someone at the club, obviously not Pelle, can see that opponents tend to come at us with pace but we persist on walking about. With a few minutes to go we were 3-1 down and then it came up with 7 minutes added time but we still made no genuine attempts to win the ball and if we did get it persisted in rolling it sideways or backwards.
    At Rush Green do they have the goals at either end of the halfway line on the training pitches.
  • MoojorMoojor
    OldCastleSwift said:

    The stadium move shouldn't have an affect on the players, but the fans were sold European nights under the lights, world class players and a successful club. That was the trade off for giving up the Boleyn.

    What is it? 3 relegation battles in the 4 seasons since we left? Literally no point in us leaving. This board have absolutely done the fans over.

    Also means that there is no chance in the owners selling up, as I'm pretty sure that they'll not get the return they want because of the contract about selling the club X years after moving in to the stadium.
  • whupathmanwhupathman
    :angry: thats all
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    edited December 2019
    Time I think to acknowledge that the likes of Jay have been right all along about Pelle. He called it out as not being the right appointment right from the get go.

    He is a one trick pony (Not that we are seeing much evidence of even that one trick). Clueless, slow, turgid and comfortably the laziest in the league - that is Pelle’s team, ladies and gentlemen.

    I want him gone right now, but as others have pointed out, the owners are the real problem and I want them gone more.
  • alderzalderz
    I think every manager will he found out eventually, it’s just a case of finding their shelf life. You could argue that Pep isn’t right for City because they’re out of form. I think Pellegrini has been a good manager for us, but I think this season he seems not to have the answers to the questions.

    The fitness issue is inexcusable, imo. So is the squad balance. I think the club made some very poor decisions in the summer (particularly to sell Edimilson Fernandes & Pedro Obiang), and the manager takes responsibility.

    I have no idea who would be a better manager, but there must be someone out there who can inspire the team?
  • horshamhammerhorshamhammer
    baracks_a_hammer said:


    I want him gone right now, but as others have pointed out, the owners are the real problem and I want them gone more.

    Exactly this. Everything else is a sideshow.

  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    If Rafa had been interested before last night he certainly won’t be now.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    edited December 2019
    Adam

    He wasn’t considered a success at Madrid by many and the Dave’s got the “putting his feet up in China” version of Pelle, not the 2014 version.

  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    I’m thinking of writing to the bbc to ask Phil McNulty to do an article about West Ham considering sacking their manager. Recent experience shows this usually does the trick.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    :santa:
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    At Real Madrid Pellegrini lost in the Copa del Rey to a second division outfit, lost to Lyon in the Champions League round of 16 and was told if he didn't win La Liga he'd get the boot.

    As Adam said he got 96pts which was the highest total they'd ever achieved at that point but Barcelona got 99pts, their highest total at that point.

    Pellegrini claimed that he had no say on transfers and that he wasn't allowed to build the team he wanted. At least he can't complain about that with us...
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    :snowball:
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    So Pelle had no say in CR7 arriving at Madrid?

    Some would say it is lucky he was overruled
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    edited December 2019
    He had no say in them selling Wesley Sneijder and Arjen Robben who he wanted to keep.

    They sign the best players, but not the best players needed in a certain position.

    It’s no good having an orchestra with the 10 best guitarists if I don’t have a pianist. Real Madrid have the best guitarists, but if I ask them to play the piano they won’t be able to do it so well.

    He sold players that I considered important. We didn't win the Champions League because we didn't have a squad properly structured to be able to win it.

    Pellegrini on Real Madrid chairman Florentino Pérez Rodríguez, 2012.
  • BubblesNeverDiesBubblesNeverDies
    edited December 2019
    "Sir Alex Ferguson once likened a symphony orchestra to a football team as both depend entirely on the collaboration between the players."

    That's it - Simon Rattle for manager.


    :biggrin: :yercoat:

    And I couldn't resist this by way of cheering us up.
  • heathrowhammerheathrowhammer
    How about Eddie Jones, as head coach
    With Stewart Pearce, Rio, and Joe cole.
    Now if anyone can inspire players, crowd and bring excitment back, it's him.
  • BubblesNeverDiesBubblesNeverDies
    Heathrow, believe it or not, I was thinking about Eddie Jones myself. :ok:
  • imagelostimagelost
    Eddie yates
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    So we’ve concluded that we won’t be able to find a football coach so let’s instead get a rugby one?

    :hmm:
  • heathrowhammerheathrowhammer
    I think the board should consider all options.
  • HamstewHamstew
    Getting someone like Rio, J Cole or Collision in wouldn't be the craziest thing to do for the short term imo. I don't think things could get any worse and at least they would be motivated to do well.
  • HuttonhammerHuttonhammer
    I will say it as many wont . You can change the managers all you want but the biggest issue is Mr West Ham . Noble sums up everything that is wrong with the team .
    The team has no pace . The midfield gets by passed easily and does not support any forward that plays , the team fades after 60 mins . The team plays boring sideways football .
    These are all attributes of our Captain. He has not been premier league standard for many years and one or two decent performances against other poor sides a year is not good enough.
    This club needs him gone so it can move forward with a fresh outlook .
    You can change as many managers as you like but the football will not improve while he is Captain and starting games for this club.
    Kevin Nolan knew when it was time for him to go and he was better than Noble.
    It is now 4 years later and Noble is still a starter it must affect the players him being around when he is so poor and doesn’t warrant a place in the squad any more.
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    edited December 2019
    Hamstew said:

    Getting someone like Rio, J Cole or Collision in wouldn't be the craziest thing to do for the short term imo. I don't think things could get any worse and at least they would be motivated to do well.

    Rio has never coached and hasn't shown any interest in coaching since 2016.
    Joe Cole started as a coach with the Chelsea Academy in January but appears to have left.
    Jack Collison coached the kids at Peterborough for two years, our U16s for two years and left to coach the U17s at Atlanta United in June.

    So three players who've never managed or even coached at a senior level.
    Huttonhammer said:

    Kevin Nolan knew when it was time for him to go and he was better than Noble.

    I'm sorry but WHAT?

    Nolan carried on playing even when it was obvious he was past it, he struggled through the last season under Sam and left before the end of August the first season under Slav. He joined Leyton Orient in January as player-manager but he wasn't even up to playing in League 2.

    Nolan was never considered for an England cap, back in 2016 plenty were wondering why Noble hadn't been called up for the Euros.
  • HamstewHamstew
    edited December 2019
    ASLEFshrugged said:

    Hamstew said:

    Getting someone like Rio, J Cole or Collision in wouldn't be the craziest thing to do for the short term imo. I don't think things could get any worse and at least they would be motivated to do well.

    Rio has never coached and hasn't shown any interest in coaching since 2016.
    Joe Cole started as a coach with the Chelsea Academy in January but appears to have left.
    Jack Collison coached the kids at Peterborough for two years, our U16s for two years and left to coach the U17s at Atlanta United in June.

    So three players who've never managed or even coached at a senior level.
    Yes I know all this you don't need to tell me that. My point is we could do a lot worse than getting someone in short term that understands West Ham and isn't motivated by getting a huge payout should they get the sack.

    Imo we are heading for the championship anyway.
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