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Her campaign for a peopel's vote is different, and doesn't contradict what she did earlier.
The new date was written into a statutory instrument which amended the existing legislation (a process which is completely routine, and happens with lots of UK law). , The SI was presented to Parliament on 27 March - they debated it and voted to agree it (In the Commons and in the Lords).
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/brexit/the-eu/eu-exit-day-is-changed-in-uk-law/
Which may be why the media isn't covering it much, specially since so much other stuff is going on with Brexit.
:fishslap:
I think that arguing
that the govt can't do whatever it likes without any Parliamentary scrutiny
is totally separate from, and not contradictory to arguing
that Parliament can ask the public to give its views on an issue through a
people's votereferendum and agree to implement the resultCopy and paste
simon schama essay when britain chose europe
into Google and then click on
Simon Schama: When Britain chose Europe | Financial Times
It will bypass the FT paywall
(don't click the link
https://www.ft.com/content/68c8efa8-39df-11e9-b72b-2c7f526ca5d0)
It will be good for everyone if this issue is sorted sooner rather than later. Debates on this topic do get fractious as I think we are all a bit entrenched in our views. I am however happy to listen to the reasons for staying even though they are all wrong!!
You said you 'switched to leave' for reasons including 'EU put such tight standards (unnecessarily so) on fruit and veg that there is huge wastage'
This is in the present tense. As in, it happens now.
So as a matter of fact, there isn't huge waste as a result, now. So it's false to say so.
Also (and this bit is my opinion) it is a false reason for leaving now, since, as you point out (and I am happy to acknowledge) was something that happened in the past and no longer pertains.
Of course, you are perfectly entitled to want to leave because of a mistake that was made in the past and since put right. But, I disagree that it is a valid reason.
It's not the first time a law was introduced for a good reason (in any country - I can give you UK examples) that ended up having unforeseen (and unwanted) consequences and was subsequently amended.
imo it's not an indication of any particular ineptitude or ill-intent on the part of the EU.
If you look up the background you will see that the regulations were introduced as to way to standardise the classification of fruit and veg. The good intent was to ensure customers couldn't be ripped off with higher prices being charged for so called 'class 1' fruit when really it was no such thing. It was also designed to help people by ensuring that class 1 apples in Waitrose were of the same standard as Class 1 apples in Tesco.
The issue about wastage occurred when a consignment described as one thing (eg class 2 kiwis fruit) turned out not to be that thing (didn't meet the standards to be classified as class 2), and therefore couldn't be sold as class 2.
That was the unforseen/unintended consequence - the absence of an additional 'lower' category, or a contingency option for preventing the food being wasted. And that's what they fixed, in the end.
I'd want to look at the circumstances.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/10/brexit-leaving-eu-farming-agriculture
EU=bad. This government = bad.
It doesn't mention the big problem; we import half our foodstuffs because despite 70% of land being used for agriculture we don't have enough land to feed ourselves, something we've not been able to do for at least 150 years.
Logical progression.
https://www.countryfile.com/news/can-the-uk-feed-itself-after-brexit/
If we go down the Professor Lang route I would like these policies enacted after the current barbecue season. :porkpie:
On a separate note, our supermarkets have much stricter rules and regulations about what fruit and veg has to look like to be sold in their shops than anything from the EU.
If you want to actually do something about food wastage then look to something which makes the supermarkets change how they sell stuff. They put in the rules about carrots being a certain length, shape, amount of bend etc.
It's why we are slowly seeing more bags of "basic" style fruit and veg, which has ones of all shapes, sizes and colours. Hugh fearnley whittingstall did a show about war on waste in which he looked at how much food farmers have to destroy because it doesn't meet the tight spec laid down by the super markets.