I was reading up about Fonseca yesterday, and looking back through his history on Transfermarkt. With Shakhtar he has typically played 4-2-3-1, but when he first joined them and with both Porto and Pacos de Ferreira he played what transfermarkt calls "4-4-2 Double 6".
Basically, that's a 4-4-2 with two holding midfielders and the wingers pretty much playing as wide attackers, closer to a 4-2-4 than a traditional 4-4-2.
We need a manager and new players in. If we go into next year with this squad and 1 or 2 signings we will be battling relegation again. The squad has so many holes in it.
The one thing I've enjoyed about this season is Arnie.
Arnie has given Moyes a lot of credit and come out saying he wants him to stay.
It worries me a lot that we're considering Moyes go with no (apparent) successor lined up already, when he has got the best out of our best player and clearly has at least his support.
I can't see Pellegrini joining as Chinese season still mid season and Dyche will probably stay at Burnley . Emery was at PSG and does n't speak English seems a step down to be honest. So Fonseca is available looks best bet, I think Rafa will only leave Newcastle if we offer him loads of money to spend and I can't see that happening
Rafa would be a big appointment, as it would indicate that they are happy to fulfil his wants and needs that Newcastle are not; namely some money to spend in the market.
"My future? I've heard so much talk, but I haven't spoken to [Napoli chairman] Aurelio de Laurentiis. I have a contract with Newcastle, I'm talking to them about my renewal.
"They made me some offers to stay here for a few more years, plus I have to manage my family. When I decided to go to Newcastle and stay there, even in the Championship, it was also because of my family.
"My priority is to stay in England. I'm only talking to Newcastle right now."
The interesting part is the last line, "right now". ;hmm
I have to say that I'm pretty underwhelmed by just about every name that's been mentioned except maybe Benitez. I honestly think that Moyes is at least as good as all of them. By the way, I'm not saying that I think he's that brilliant either but none of the others particularly inspire me.
But new owners traditionally employ their own managers.
That has certainly been the case at West Ham but it doesn't apply everywhere. WBA's current owners bought the club in September 2016 but Pulis continued as manager until November 2017.
Well if this is true or only half true this sums up my previous comment that none of us have that much faith/confidence that Sullivan & Gold will get this right. They may be good business people, but as far as matters football go they have no idea.
Grey - scattergun, just like their player transfer policy, bids and enquiries far and wide see which ones take the bait.
I would welcome Rafa as a potential upgrade on Moyes, that being said imo this whole situation is a farce, we’ve not officially let Moyes go, there have been indications from him that his contract ended even though it was widely reported to be 2.5 years with a 6 month break, but nobody has actually initiated the break. Moyes is still around and seemingly having to apply for his own job in essence after talks.
All the while the owner of our great club is openly interviewing applicants at his house, jeez.
I think Moyes has probably done enough to warrant a crack at it, I’ve a sneaky feeling he could do okay, but he’s probably upset the regime with his leaks and mentality/culture comments, if he does stay let it be on his terms, so he can try and keep the ringmaster of this circus in check.
Otherwise Dave, walk away you’ve restored your reputation.
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Basically, that's a 4-4-2 with two holding midfielders and the wingers pretty much playing as wide attackers, closer to a 4-2-4 than a traditional 4-4-2.
Adrian; Zabaleta Rice Ogbonna Cresswell; Noble Obiang; Antonio Lanzini; Arnie Hernandez
;hmm
But we need to find a way to play with a back 4
without being awful defensively
Arnie has given Moyes a lot of credit and come out saying he wants him to stay.
It worries me a lot that we're considering Moyes go with no (apparent) successor lined up already, when he has got the best out of our best player and clearly has at least his support.
Fonseca
Emery
Benitez
Pellegrini
Dyche
What's 'scattergun'?
We have no idea how the board have decided to consider potential managers, or what criteria they are using.
They haven't come out and said anything (which I am assuming everyone is applauding.) Surely you aren't using meejah rumours to judge them?
for Rafa, or players ;puzzled
Not sure on Pellegrini don't think it would work.
Fonseca don't know much really.
The autonomy over transfers is key for me though. Give him money. Let him spend it.
Quite encouraged by this. Hopefully it's got some legs.
That's from yesterday and includes some quotes: The interesting part is the last line, "right now". ;hmm
'@SkySportsKeth'. I'd be surprised if Keith Downie would spell his name wrong in his own handle.
Just checked; his official handle is '@SkySports_Keith'
So yeah, no legs at all I suspect
Offers everything good about Moyes plus more
Wouldnt mind the shaktar guy he seems exciting
But im not feeling confident
;yercoat
I would welcome Rafa as a potential upgrade on Moyes, that being said imo this whole situation is a farce, we’ve not officially let Moyes go, there have been indications from him that his contract ended even though it was widely reported to be 2.5 years with a 6 month break, but nobody has actually initiated the break. Moyes is still around and seemingly having to apply for his own job in essence after talks.
All the while the owner of our great club is openly interviewing applicants at his house, jeez.
I think Moyes has probably done enough to warrant a crack at it, I’ve a sneaky feeling he could do okay, but he’s probably upset the regime with his leaks and mentality/culture comments, if he does stay let it be on his terms, so he can try and keep the ringmaster of this circus in check.
Otherwise Dave, walk away you’ve restored your reputation.
You wouldn't get very good odds betting against him as the source of the 'leak'.