Palace (A) can we clip the Eagles wings or will we fade & die (Match Thread 28.10.17)

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  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    TwistandShout_I_love_Allardyce said:

    Jorderz_Slaven_A_Good_Time said:

    I don’t think Antonio is lazy or disinterested and he’s been our best attacking player since Payet left, and top scorer.

    I think his cross the other day was lazy and stupid in equal measure.

    He was lazy and disinterested against Brighton (i know everyone else was too...)
    At times he lost the ball and just stood still.
    I've noticed an attitude change in him. I hope he gets back to the Antonio of old
    He was injured after about 20 against Brighton and he’s just come back from injury
  • MIAHammerMIAHammer
    edited October 2017
    Had he gone to the corner and they still scored, we would all be on here saying what a poor decision. We would have all then said he should have gone for the goal with 2-3 of our players up supporting him, instead of going to the corner.
    It's easy to be an armchair critic.
    Yes, he gave away the ball cheaply but the rest of our team all sat back instead of closing them down, and invited them to run at us. There's plenty of blame to go round.
    If we're going to play the "if only" game .... I still think, and I said it at the time, Antonio should have been brought on to support Zabeleta (to curb Zaha) not to replace him. Fernandes did nothing to justify staying on the pitch. That way we wouldn't have been so exposed at the back. So for me, it was a poor tactical move by Bilic.
  • HamstewHamstew
    If he was that lazy he probably would have just stood in the corner shielding the ball rather than what he did do.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    I don't understand why Antonio is suddenly public enemy number one?
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    Because some of our fans need one, apparently .....

    #ModernGame
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    Some of it's over the top but I also get the sense there's been something wrong with him - body language has been one (especially when he actually played that cross) but also he seems to have almost always chosen the selfish option in games. I know an element of his game relies on being a bit greedy to push us forward but he's constantly doing it now. Otherwise, he was just the unlucky one to absorb all the blame from the others - Ogbonna was just as stupid, I think that was the worst I've ever seen Noble play and Masuaku did almost nothing other than give away free-kicks.
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited October 2017
    It’s not a knee-jerk from me.

    I’ve had a downer on him since his reaction to being asked to start last season at RB. He hasn't been the same breath of fresh air since. His first season I loved him but something hasn’t quite been right over the past 18 months. Body language. A lot of his play is very selfish. I've also noticed that when he does score the other players don’t swarm to congratulate him.

    The big thing with Antonio is he is not that gifted, technically, or intelligence wise on a football field. He relies heavily on his pace, physique but, mostly, his attitude. Once that goes we won’t have much of a top level player left.

    Just hope he hasn’t got too big for his boots after his England recognition and new contract. He isn’t bigger than the team and, if that means playing RWB for 20 mins or starting as a sub, then so be it. He has to have the right attitude to that.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Well he's probably guaranteed that he won't get another England call up. Just imagine somebody doing that in a critical World Cup finals match resulting in elimination and the outcry then. Mind you it's a big stretch of the imagination to believe England would actually get into that situation in the first place.
  • horshamhammerhorshamhammer
    Says something when comments from rent-a-gobs Jamie Carragher and Gary Neville are on the mark...

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5033595/Jamie-Carragher-tears-West-Ham.html
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Stating the obvious doesn't take too much thought.
  • NEoldironNEoldiron
    Don't know if this is correct, from KUMB:

    "Palace have been in the top ten for penalties awarded every season since they got promoted, often in the top six.
    We're usually in the bottom six."
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    Although NE I don't think anyone could argue the decision made on Sat ;ok
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited October 2017
    NE, there's a stats page that I used to look up our ranking this season after barracks mentioned it. I can't remember what it was called, but it was one of the first links that came up when I googled. You might be able to check it there ;ok

    Edit: This one http://www.myfootballfacts.com/Premier_League_Penalty_Statistics.html
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    I think I heard it said that you are likely to have a chance of earning penalties if you have players in your side who run at pace with the ball into the area.

    Not difficult to see therefore why we are not so hot on that stat.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    I think I heard it said that you are likely to have a chance of earning penalties if you have players who dive.

    I think I heard it said that you are likely to have a chance of earning penalties if the refs are inept.

    I think I heard it said that you are likely to have a chance of earning penalties if it is the third Saturday in the month.

    I think I heard it said that the earth is flat. The moon is made of blue cheese. If baz starts a match thread we will lose....
  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    edited November 2017
    Now hold on a cotton picking minute!!

    I have match thread victories which include the league win over Spurs. That, according to unnamed sources, was the game that saved us from relegation!

    So, therefore, I saved us from relegation and most likely had something to do with West Ham winning the world cup in '66 too

    # ;whistle
  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    Oh and after we lose to Liverpool and Watford I'm doing the Leicester match thread ( I will start composing tonight to make sure I'm first ;lol )
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    horshamhammer said:

    Says something when comments from rent-a-gobs Jamie Carragher and Gary Neville are on the mark...

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5033595/Jamie-Carragher-tears-West-Ham.html

    TBH they are the only talking heads I pay any attention too.
  • chicagohammerchicagohammer
    Quite often we have Lee Dixon and Graeme le saux - I generally agree with most of what they say
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