Tonight Celtic won the FIFA award for the 'Best Fans' on the same day EUFA's disciplinary body punished them for the 12th time in six years regarding their fans' behaviour.
Anyway, I see that QPR had been appealing their fine for breaching the 'live within your means' aspect of the regs as they spent their way into the PL.
They were knocked back on both fronts, with the ruling that their fines were not disproportionate and the regs were not unlawful.
Why is it ridiculous? It's a tradition and this year the weekend of 9/10 November is an international break so this weekend is the last chance for some clubs to mark the occassion. ;poppy
Because (imo) it has become too much about virtue signalling.
If the clubs want to support the Royal British Legion (or indeed any of the other charities who do the same work) they can. At any time.
If they want to join or hold Remembrance Day Commemorations, they should be on Remembrance Sunday or (where it isn't the same) 11 November.
Having commemorations at 'convenient-for-us other times when we can fit them in with all the other stuff we've got going on' - which is what is having a ceremony on 28th October actually is - devalues the significance for me, and makes it all about the club.
Why is it ridiculous? It's a tradition and this year the weekend of 9/10 November is an international break so this weekend is the last chance for some clubs to mark the occassion. ;poppy
Nobody wore poppies on their shirts until 2007 and it took a few years before every club was doing it so calling it a tradition is not really accurate. Up until now I've always worn a poppy but its getting so tarnished by nationalism and bigotry I'm having serious doubts this year.
According to the OED the definition of ' tradition'' is ''The transition of customs or beliefs from generation to generation or the fact of being passed on in this way'' or ''A long established custom or belief that has been passed on from one generation to another''
Also from the OED a generation is ''generally considered to be about thirty years''.
Wearing a poppy is a tradition, poppies on football shirts is a recent Daily Mail inspired piece of nationalistic emotional blackmail
At least clubs acknowledge it. Some places in the UK don't even bother anymore.
Still hoping to hear of places that 'don't even bother anymore'.
I had a quick google, but all I could find were a couple of places where police cuts have meant that the police won't be providing security this year. So it is a possibility that unless the local organisers can sort out their own security/marshalls, the ceremony will have to be changed. In particular, the idea of closing the roads to have a procession through the town might not happen.
They could still have a wreath-laying ceremony at the war memorial. ;hmm
I must be living in some kind of bubble as I can't see where this "nationalist emotional blackmail" is nor any "bigotry". I suppose it comes down to what significance the Remembrance commemorations has to the individual. All the junior clubs locally have had their kick off times altered so every club can pay their respects. ;ok
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Thinking outside the box ;wink
I have airless spay rig , can it be sprayed?
#yougottalaugh
Anyway, I see that QPR had been appealing their fine for breaching the 'live within your means' aspect of the regs as they spent their way into the PL.
They were knocked back on both fronts, with the ruling that their fines were not disproportionate and the regs were not unlawful.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41736013
If the clubs want to support the Royal British Legion (or indeed any of the other charities who do the same work) they can. At any time.
If they want to join or hold Remembrance Day Commemorations, they should be on Remembrance Sunday or (where it isn't the same) 11 November.
Having commemorations at 'convenient-for-us other times when we can fit them in with all the other stuff we've got going on' - which is what is having a ceremony on 28th October actually is - devalues the significance for me, and makes it all about the club.
I can't see any need for clubs to do anything other than in the game which occurs on Remembrance Sunday weekend, if they choose to.
If no games fall that weekend, why mark it at all?
It has nothing to do with football.
By all means, observe the minute's silence at 11.11 in the workplace.
Do people who aren't going to be at work on the 11th at 11:11 observe it the last time they are at work before that date?
There's 10 home games the week after, which is a lot nearer than 3 week before.
Apparently we are seeing Jeremy Hardy tonight ;wahoo.
It is part of my birthday present.
#happyhappy
;wahoo ;champagne
The loss of life , unbelievable scale
Yes, that is what Remembrance Sunday is for.
Not sure it has to be expanded outside that.
There was no choice, he had to go......
How many times must it take place before it becomes a tradition? ;hmm
Also from the OED a generation is ''generally considered to be about thirty years''.
Wearing a poppy is a tradition, poppies on football shirts is a recent Daily Mail inspired piece of nationalistic emotional blackmail
I had a quick google, but all I could find were a couple of places where police cuts have meant that the police won't be providing security this year. So it is a possibility that unless the local organisers can sort out their own security/marshalls, the ceremony will have to be changed. In particular, the idea of closing the roads to have a procession through the town might not happen.
They could still have a wreath-laying ceremony at the war memorial. ;hmm
Poppies on shirts had nothing to do with my post and so your reference to the DM is therefore irrelevant.
I must be living in some kind of bubble as I can't see where this "nationalist emotional blackmail" is nor any "bigotry". I suppose it comes down to what significance the Remembrance commemorations has to the individual. All the junior clubs locally have had their kick off times altered so every club can pay their respects. ;ok