Palace (A) can we clip the Eagles wings or will we fade & die (Match Thread 28.10.17)
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Seems a long, long way away at the moment.
It doesn't look good for us. I agree if he has already read the riot act it's not had much effect.
Self-interested liability.
Salah, Coutinho, Firmino and Sturridge....
;puzzled
Having said that, Ogbonna's was sheer clumsiness while Antonio seemed to not care (judging by his body language). It's a shame because so many of the players today and last match showed they wanted to perform for Bilic and West Ham and really cared about their performance. Normally Antonio gives 100% but something is up with him recently.
Let's hope next week there isn't another player that decides to have a moment of madness.
Adrian, possibly, if we can keep him this season. Noble and Ginge, obvs. Rice too I reckon, and Byram.
As for the rest, they'll probably leave. Which at the moment I'm ok with to be honest.
If Antonio had not made the schoolboy show off error I'd have tomorrow thinking we were well lucky to hang on to the points, but that last gasp goal made my weekend feeling down.....
That was a another poor performance IMO regardless of end result ....
The last minute not names but
Also, what About Rice and Kouyate for their second, that is rank poor defending
Bilic does not have the answers to our endemic problems. Not his fault that he doesn’t have the answers because maybe he just isn’t capable. The sheer number of times we are conceding at least two goals in a game. It just isn’t sustainable - fun whilst someone like Payet is wreaking havoc at the other end, but just not tenable. When all sorts of different personnel and formations have been tried there is nothing left but to make a change at the top IMO
Just my opinion.
"If we hadn't been scuppered by injuries, I would have liked AC on for Chicarito. Who was strolling around in an offside position when we had the ball down at their end in the last 20 mins or so"
To me, he doesn't look fit. Don't know if anyone else noticed, but whenever there was a close-up of him, he seemed to be struggling to get his breath. ;hmm
If you look at most of our goals conceded there was an individual mistake, of some kind, almost glaring.....
We've been letting in late late goals since SA reign (and probably before)
I remember the groans and moans when he'd throw on a couple of defenders to see the game out, now we're forced with our injuries etc and SB doesn't have much of a choice and they still hang the manager out to dry.
It's a mental thing, is it SB responsibility, possibly but he's not a bloomin therapist!
Thanks for asking ;ok
If we had 8 games to go, not 28 I'd possibly see where you were coming from
;ok
Conceding penalties
Conceding last minute goals
Drawing/losing from a winning position
;hmm
It's like people saying Wednesday was down to Noble, not Slav, then first 20 minutes of today it was down to Noble that we were struggling....
No, it's really not down to one person or one factor. It's nearly always a combination of events good and bad.
IMO
It's better to be prepared. ;wink
Players are making stupid errors, not even footballing errors but judgment errors that lads in my boys team would not make. I have not seen his team give away a penalty as needlessly as ogbonna or been as casual and absent mindedness as Antonio, or as ill disciplined as Carroll was two weeks ago.
As for Slav his tactics are terrible as to try and soak up pressure for 45 minutes clearly had such a risk factor, he sits with Arto on the bench, 28m of his funds from the summer as he cant actually even play him yet he has no quality defensive midfielder, he luckily has Carroll fit otherwise he has only Chico from his summer business as an attacker, yet he has Arto on the bench who appears surplus to requirements. He has had four transfer windows and even accepting most of last seasons have been returned he has no credible system for which he bought them, is over supplied in some positions and weak in others.
We have let points slip against Soton, Burnley, Spurs and Palace in my view through a mixture of Slavs team selection and tactics and poor player discipline or stupidity (choose as you wish). I love Slav but time to see what a new man can do with what is without doubt a decent bunch of individuals who need forming into a team and drilled in how to play with discipline and perform the basic tasks of their position.
I don't think Palace had us under any pressure, we just chose not to offer anything more to the game and got the most inevitable result.
Next week, will be a big test against Liverpool and if the WHU of second-half at Tottenham turn up we can we can take the points.