Summer 2017 Transfer Speculation (continued)

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  • New players excepted our best player by far imo Mrs G, though on reflection any 'Head and Shoulders' comments should be reserved for you know who.
  • Although .... in the role the play... Antonio (of our old players) as good as?
  • Not imo. Mainly down to technique where the ball gets away from Antonio on too many occasions. Lanzini does a lot of work and excels bringing the ball out of defence.

    He plays deeper than Coutinho so wouldn't be a ready replacement anyway.
  • No IMO MrsG. Although I like Mr Antonio and think he's a great player for our team, there is a reason Slav wanted to convert him to be a RB. He is quick, powerful and strong, has a great engine, and dribbles well. His technique and 'football brain' however isn't that high for a forward player. (I'm not trying to say he isn't a good RW, he is, and IMO he's currently the best we have in that position).

    I can see a bigger team than us wanting Lanzini, his current ability (baller ;footie , technique and skills of creativity) and potential to get better still are attractive. However I cannot imagine one of the 'top 6' wanting Antonio as a right wing forward - he simply hasn't the technical nous required for those teams IMO.
  • Haha, great minds Herb! Love that double post! 7:36 ;cool
  • I take your points. ;ok

    I just think Lanzini could improve on the 'knowing when to pass' as far too often imo he holds on too long, runs into a dead end and loses the ball.
  • IronHerb said:

    Strange how Lanzini is suddenly "not that good" when there's an outside chance someone maybe interested in him. Head and shoulders our best player.

    Nobody is saying he's not that good. He and Antonio are our best players, IMO.

    Nothing in that makes it the case that he's an equal or nearly equal replacement for Coutinho, because in my opinion he isn't in that class.
  • Apparently, Turkish clubs regularly play down the value of transfers they make.
  • edited August 2017
    I hope so Grey. If we are paying a reported £2.4-3m for a (admittedly seemingly highly regarded) 18 year old from the Swedish league, I would like to think we would get more than £4m for a player who; is at his prime (27), is a regular international (43 caps, 11 goals), was a top player and nailed on starter for Valencia for 5 years, was decent in the prem IMO once he adjusted and got past his initial injury, scores (around 1 in 6.5ish in Spain and UK) and creates as a winger, still has two years left on contract, etc, etc.

    Although as I have already stated I'll be sad to see him go. Ideally I would keep him and think he could be a good player for us. Unfortunately it appears I will be disappointed :(
  • Moore,

    I've never heard of Warren Barton, but I think the chances of Giroud coming to us are extremely, extremely low.
  • Is this the same Warren Barton that played fullback for Newcastle? If so why would he be in the know about a transfer between Arsenal and West Ham?
  • moore_than, I was heavily in the camp for wanting Giroud originally, especially because at the time I felt Chicharito seemed unlikely. I would be amazed if we brought him in now. He's not going to switch across London to still be on the bench, so what are we suddenly going to go two up top when we barely did last season, haven't at all over pre season, and Slav has never seemingly favoured it? He's a top striker IMO and I think he'd be great for us, but I feel if we do bring in another CF (which in itself I feel is unlikely now) he will be a younger player, or from a 'smaller' team, willing to be second fiddle to the 'lil Pea.

    ...and I am with those who remember Warren Barton. '90s Prem League Newc? RB? and an overly common find for the sticker books! Swap!
  • Warren Barton is the same former NUFC player, and he is now based in San Diego, and is a regular commentator, pundit and mangler of the English language on the Fox Soccer channel here in the USA. So he may have some inside info: but his most recent comment on Giroud on Twitter is lukewarm at best:

    Warren Barton‏Verified account @warrenbarton2 Aug 6

    Warren Barton Retweeted Hammer Robert
    Maybe ...

    Hammer Robert @TheRobertGLong
    @warrenbarton2 did I hear u say, on post game show, that Giroud's pk for
    Arsenal would be his last as he was going to @WestHamUtd?
  • Rumours that Barca have agreed a £108m deal with LFC for Coutinho.
  • ;lol love to see spurs bottom of anything
  • edited August 2017
    Watford are close to agreeing an £18.5m deal for forward Andre Gray, BBC Sport understands.
  • Ex reporting Slav doesn't want another striker.
  • Looks like Watford signing Andre Gray. Think we will get burnt again not signing 2 strikers. Foolish to think Sakho and Carroll can be relied on to be fit.
  • AC apparently being put through a brutal training programme. I think we all know how that will end
  • edited August 2017
    Yes, Sky Sports went undercover to give us a sneak preview....

    https://media3.giphy.com/media/14fYGia5pd6GeQ/giphy.gif
  • Looks like Watford signing Andre Gray. Think we will get burnt again not signing 2 strikers. Foolish to think Sakho and Carroll can be relied on to be fit.

    I reckon that they should be able to manage at least ten games.

    ;pray that it is much more.
  • I still think we should be trying for Gray at 11.5M ;puzzled
  • Hmmm BBC say 18.5M.... Can I change my mind? Way too much for last year of contract if true
  • The Sun is reporting that Feghouli is being shown the door at West Ham.
    The Algerian, will be joining Galatasaray in a £4 million deal.
  • 4 million for Feghouli we got our trousers pulled down
  • edited August 2017
    So just Snodgrass to go and we'll be set with the outgoings.

    Just need a couple of new additions. Just a DM and attacking player please!!!

    I accept CB is not going to happen.
  • I don't think the DM or striker are going to happen either.
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