Summer 2017 Transfer Speculation (continued)

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  • Je ne regret rien.

    French bloke.
  • edited July 2017
    Regarding back-up, I've said here that I'm a bit worried what we'd do if Lanzini is injured. So I'd like a back-up creative no. 10, which may be Jota, though I've never seen him play, Badou or Boudebouz, who can also play wider.

    But if we don't get one, I'm fine with Ayew or Arnie playing there and others moving around. Or I guess we can just play a different system, with two up front or 4-3-3.

    So what I think we really need is players to fit different systems. We have a good first 11 for 4-2-3-1. I think we're also OK for 4-3-3, 3-5-2 and the diamond.

    But last year we bought a lot of wingers who were supposed to be able to cross it for AC (Tore, Feghouli, Snodders), perhaps in a 4-4-2. Looks like only the third will be left with us, and only if we can't shift him, and his crossing has gone to pot, along with the rest of his game. So do we need to prioritise buying that kind of winger? Or will be able to rely on our FBs/WBs? Or is it silly to worry about a system for AC when he may not play too often?
  • As you said we've gone down the wingers route with mixed if not poor success with the likes of downing, Feghouli, Jarvis, Snodgrass etc who are all good crossers with little success

    Ironically the mentioned guys....well mainly just Downing and Feghouli.....enjoyed their best success behind the strikers in more central roles

    I think Carroll is not around enough for it to be a huge priority and I also think Carroll performs best when te crosses are more erratic then constant balls into the box (he ends up just giving away fouls)....I think Cresswell/Masuaka will provide the crosses from the left overlapping Arnie and Antonio and Zab will share the crosses from the right so he won't be isolated

    I agree though we probably need a #10 in the Lanzini ilk as he links the entire team and we look lost without him
  • Different Jota, no? Wolves signed the Atletico Madrid one.
  • edited August 2017
    I can't be dealing with that! Pick a player with a different name, I'm finding all this hard enough as it is. ;weep
  • I get confused with the many Dembeles.
  • edited August 2017
    IronHerb how much to the BMF that Sakho doesn't play a game for West Ham before Christmas ;lol

    Needs to be sold asap
  • Cant sell him if he doesn't play.
  • @Yeoldhammer - Rumours currently that we ARE trying to offload Sakho. His contract ends next summer and as far as I am aware we haven't offered him a new one. I read a couple of days ago in the dirt rags that we've approached some Turkish teams and offered him, but thus far it seems, no bites.
  • We could sell him for glue ;hmm
  • if he's fit you can sell him. one of the reasons players leave and go to other clubs is because they don't play as much as they would like
  • We could sell him for glue ;hmm

    Anticipate a number of sticking points on that deal.
  • edited August 2017
    Regarding more players leaving than joining, we specifically bought extra 'squad' players last season to bulk up our experienced first teamers as we were expecting a full season in the europa.

    Obviously we were knocked out before the group stages less than 2 weeks ater the prem even started. Thereby we simply need a smaller squad this season then we planned for last (a successfull europa drive could have added an extra 19 games to our season).

    This is why we need a smaller amount of experienced players this year, we simply are expecting less games. For example we brought in Nordtveit, giving us 4 experienced CM, when we only play 2 per game, because we thought we'd also have lots of extra europa games. We subsequently couldn't provide enough matches to keep them all happy (Nordtveit only played 15 games last season, and a fair few of those were in his less favoured RB or CB or as a sub) hence why he wanted out.
  • edited August 2017

    I can't be dealing with that! Pick a player with a different name, I'm finding all this hard enough as it is. ;weep

    Well Jota is Spanish for the the letter "J". But it is also the word used for the "jack" in cards. So if we move on from the jack, our next stop might be the queen, which in Spanish is Reina.

    So, Pepe Reina as a possibly replacement for Adrian?
    ;hmm

    I've seen worse recruitment policies!
  • edited August 2017
    @Yeoldhammer - I disagree here. Yes, players leave if they don't get enough games, but only when a club wants them in. With Sakho, he's barely played for a season (and only half the season before that), has had documented personal issues off the pitch, he apparently failed a medical at West Brom last summer, and his contract ends next year when a club could get him on a free. Who wants to bother buying him now? It's easy to say 'well someone will give him a chance', but quite simply, up to now no-one has. I really feel he'll be here just about doing enough to receive his wages until he leaves on a free next summer. A shame as I used to enjoy watching him play, but I just want him out now.

  • Former West Ham and Chelsea striker Carlton Cole is to be sacked by Indonesia's Persib after failing to find the net since his arrival in March, the team's manager said Tuesday.


    Barn door wasn't big enough
  • I get confused with the many Dembeles.

    To be fair, if you stuck all the Dembele players in a transfer list hat, you wouldn't mind which one came out. They're all good players!
  • Former West Ham and Chelsea striker Carlton Cole is to be sacked by Indonesia's Persib after failing to find the net since his arrival in March, the team's manager said Tuesday.


    Barn door wasn't big enough

    A bit harsh, out of 17 games he was with them he only started three, he's never played a full 90 minutes, was subbed on in two more and was left on the bench five times. He was left out of the squad for five games up until Saturday when he got his third start.

    He wasn't given much of a chance
  • From the manager

    "It's the management's decision to dismiss him, we will have a new player in the second round of the season," Muchtar said. "He plays very badly compared to the other (foreign players) who have joined Persib. He had the worst performance," Muchtar added

  • N'Diaye now rated at 4.9 out of 5 on the sky sports Odemwingie scale to join Galatasary.
  • And Boudedouz rumoured to be going to Real Betis
  • Is that not a wine?
  • I fear the rest of this window may be a tale of us missing out on players we were never in for in the first place.
  • BREAKING: Carlton Cole has been sacked by Indonesian side Persib Bandung after failing to score a single goal this season...

    4 games...
  • Well, if he couldn't get many starts.......
  • I fear the rest of this window may be a tale of us missing out on players we were never in for in the first place.

    Cue me laughing at this comment in 30 days' time when we've signed five players...
  • Good moves for their developments but it means that we require an extra body in CM (if we didn't already)
  • Telegraph reports Leicester are signing Iheanacho with a £50m buy back clause.
  • Lukerz said:

    Telegraph reports Leicester are signing Iheanacho with a £50m buy back clause.

    If true......it is hard not to be annoyed at that, that is a huge profit that could be made and if that was the sticking point for us

    But apparantly it was Bilics choice so have to hope he is right
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