Summer 2017 Transfer Speculation (continued)

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  • whupathmanwhupathman
    So big time Charlie has us staying up, I take that:)
  • HappyHammer_ishHappyHammer_ish
    Linked with lemina of juventus tonight. Would be a great signing imo. Young strong CDM..
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    Sky reporting that stoke are in negotiations for Lemina for £13.5mil think that is deffo worth gazumping
  • ammerinaberdeenammerinaberdeen
    After a few brandies I have come to the conclusion that we should put in a bid for striker, I haven't a clue who but should be in the big strong and pacey mould(or mouldy) brandy is good for your well being and in the correct amount is very medicinal. I believe I'm very well medicated at the moment. Who would you go after? Hasn't been a post since yesterday, bored, Discuss!
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Lemina joining Saints according to SSN
  • HappyHammer_ishHappyHammer_ish
    Thorn that's disappointing.. I would have loved us to get him...
  • FlorinRaducliousFlorinRaduclious
    ammer, one large concern for us at the moment when it comes to further signings is with the rules regarding 'home grown' in the squad at the minute. Teams are allowed a squad of 25, where up to 17 are allowed to be non HG. I currently judge us to have 16 non HG players (admittedly this includes Feghouli who I personally would like to keep). Thereby with only one more non HG player allowed I would save that spot for if an unexpected 'great' could be picked up as the transfer window shuts (of course that's if we buy anyone at all now). As any striker now is likely to be second fiddle to at least Chicharito and possibly Carroll / Sakho too I would save the potential non HG for a different position - we generally with Slav only play one CF unless chasing last 20 mins. Resultantly for a back up CF I would go home grown, which leads to someone like Andre Gray. Whether he'd be happy to be at best second choice for 1 role, and at worst 4th choice I do not know. Again I would have liked to keep Fletcher for this but that has gone now.
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited August 2017
    Speculation this morning in the papers and ESPN Brazil that Manuel Lanzini is Liverpool's No.1 choice to replace Coutinho. Where's that new contract?
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    If he is, then Liverpool are really in trouble.
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    Lukerz,

    Do you honestly believe Lanzini is even remotely close to Coutinho? Those stories are nonsense.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    I'd compare it to replacing Dimi with Snodgrass
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    Same. But we wouldn't have replaced Dimi with Snodgrass if we had £100 million to spend and were in the Champions League.
  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    No offense to Lanzini but Liverpool are in the champs league, they'll have a ton of money and there are many better players in Coutinhos position that they can pay over the odds for. I dont think for a second Lanzini is going to Liverpool (my next offering will no doubt detail how we'll spend the Lanzini money from Liverpool ;lol )
  • eskimokingeskimoking
    You know what's weird. Merson has us 10th and Stoke 11th in his predictions. He says Stoke have sold their best player (Arnie) in his preview for them, but the guy doesn't get a mention in his preview for us, because he's not near our best players.

    I don't disagree with any of that on the face of it. Isn't it weird that two teams predicted one place apart can have players of such varying quality? Shows that the personnel aren't the be all and end all.
  • eskimokingeskimoking
    Sorry, that's relevant for this thread as I previously said we needed a couple more players, but maybe we don't need more players, maybe we need to invest in improving other areas of the club. Probably stating the obvious.
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    We need a CM and a backup to Lanzini

    Arguably you could improve a lot more but we'll have the same problem as last summer with too many additions the team can't gel

    We are at 4 atm so 6/7 we should be aiming for given we lost a good few players
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    Jorderz_Slaven_A_Good_Time said:

    Lukerz,

    Do you honestly believe Lanzini is even remotely close to Coutinho? Those stories are nonsense.

    Yes with a bit of fine tuning. Something Liverpool have been good at in recent years when buying semi-rough diamond players and building them up to top 6 players.
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited August 2017
    With Mane, Firmino, Lallana, Sturridge, Salah around him I'd say he'd be ideal.

    He'll be 10x better immediately.
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    Fair enough yeold/Lukerz ;ok

    If I were a Liverpool (god forbid), I'd be appalled at replacing Coutinho with Lanzini.

    If Liverpool want him, and have just sold Coutinho for £100 million +, we should ask for the same price for Lanzini, if we're accepting he's a replacement.

    That should end that interest fairly quickly.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    I don't think any Liverpool fan would want that swap.

    But if Barca get their men they need a replacement. I would say Lanzini is fairly close to be that replacement ! and probably not cost as much as they sell Coutinho for with some spare cash to boot for other players.

    I would hope the Daves turn around and quickly say No to any Lanzini move but if pressured they would have to thrown down at least a 50m valuation.
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    If Liverpool get 100 mil I am sure there are better options than Lanzini , if they do want him out 45 mil + price tag on him . If I was a Liverpool fan I would be expecting a big name replacement
  • FlorinRaducliousFlorinRaduclious
    FlorinRaduclious said:

    Really hope that this Lanzini being injured and out of the Bremen games is legit and not due to speculation regarding him to Liverpool. Whilst I agree that currently he is a bit behind Coutinho in ability, so are a lot of people. I think if Coutinho leaves they could well want Lanz, yes he's not quite as good yet (certainly doesn't score as many goals) but is prem adjusted, good to go, and is getting better year on year. It is a real worry IMO if Barce do snap up Coutinho. Who else plays at CAM, is used to the prem, scores and creates, and is at a 'smaller' team than Liverpool so they can poach? Of all the examples I can think of, I would rather Lanz.

    Posted this a while back... I agree with most who say Lanz is not on Coutinho's level at the mo, but with the prem so close to starting, someone who has proven prem ability becomes all the more vital as opposed to a 'name' from a foreign league who may or may not cut it (hence why we wanted the likes of Arnautovic this summer - proven prem player). I am genuinely worried about this if Courtinho goes to Barce.

    So I reiterate, who else plays at CAM, is proven in the prem, scores and creates, and is at a team 'smaller' than Liverpool so that they should (at least in their minds) be able to poach?
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    edited August 2017
    Also worth noting lallana is set to miss the first 2 months of the season

    I agree Lanzini is no coutinho but he's a cheaper alternative who has the potential at least to improve to double figures for goals at the very least and in sure with Mane, Salah, Firminio in front of him he'll get more assists too
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    I don't think Liverpool would have any problem looking abroad for a player.

    Klopp has not been afraid to dip into the European markets in the last 2 windows.

    And I don't think the timing of a signing (early or late in the window) affects whether or not they want an existing Pl player.
  • FlorinRaducliousFlorinRaduclious
    We'll have to agree to disagree then MrsG. They have already brought in Robertson from Hull this summer, there are other LB's about as good in Europe, plus it's not as if he'll class as home grown (Scottish). Also their heavy chase of Van Dijk suggests to me that prem experience is proving important to them this summer. There are many other good CB's in Europe for the same / lower price yet they still have wanted the Dutchman at Southampton. I am very worried. I sincerely hope to be proved wrong, and/or they can keep Coutinho.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited August 2017
    They also broke the club record on signing a winger from Roma, though.

    But we'll agree to disagree, and see how it all pans out ;ok
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    There's little point in dwelling on it - if Liverpool come knocking (which personally I don't think will happen anyway) he will be off in a heartbeat. As a club we dust ourselves down and move on.
  • FlorinRaducliousFlorinRaduclious
    I can't help but dwell baracks - I'm one of life's worriers. If he leaves our season takes a massive knock for me. We would struggle to bring in someone as good in his position IMO (plus someone who has prem experience so good to go straight away without having to adjust this season..)
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Strange how Lanzini is suddenly "not that good" when there's an outside chance someone maybe interested in him. Head and shoulders our best player.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Best MF, Herb?
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