£12million, £15million, nothing now, he is a gamble at either, but a bigger gamble is Carroll breaking down next match (or training session) with only Fletcher and Martinez as recognised strikers. We are not in the £50 million buys you a guaranteed goal machine league, so anyone we buy will be a gamble. Pay the money and get him in (plus a right back).
The Daves are trying to have their cake and eat it. On the one hand they are saying there's no way Dimi is going for less than £30M and on the other quibbling over a couple of million for Hogan.
This window maybe difficult, but if you really want a player and the selling club Wants x amount then pay it .
I mean we wasted 5m on Zaza 2.5 on tore God knows what we're paying calleri and Spanish RB , put it this it would have paid Hogans fee ..
But that's just hindsight, saying what we spent on those players.
At the time, we needed players in those positions.
And at the same time, Hogan had a track record of playing well in League 2, then missed nearly the full season with a severe injury (including a recurrence) and managed 7 games in the Championship.
If we'd used that money to buy Hogan, rather than Zaza, Tore, Arbeloa and Calleri, we'd have had a squad of 21, including 3 strikers that have all had long term, recurrent injuries.
As much as I like our owners , they are very good at telling the fans who and how much they bid for players ...I'm also not even bothered about big names as long as the player is wanting to give 100% like cresswell and Antonio those sort of players are what we need not the big name guys who only come for the money.
1. A lots of that 'how much they bid' is nonsense put about by so-called ITKs and the players' agents. The club almost never officially discloses how much was paid.
2. You say you want a player that gives 100%, but then you name players and want rid/say they were rubbish signings because they didn't work out. Even if they have given 100%. Sort it out! ;wink
3. Can you put your hand on your heart and say you've never slagged the owners off for getting players nobody has ever heard of?? Scout's honour?!
The Daves are trying to have their cake and eat it. On the one hand they are saying there's no way Dimi is going for less than £30M and on the other quibbling over a couple of million for Hogan.
How is that having your cake and eating it? ;hmm
It is not buying a player for more than they think he's worth, and not selling a player for less than they think he's worth.
The trouble with saying that you'd rather the club didn't say who they'd bid for in case it doesn't happen is that people then complain that we should have been in for x, y, z and that the club has missed a trick by not going after someone we may well have gone after.
Also, I don't get the argument that we were bidding x 6mths ago therefore we shouldn't quibble over £2/3m. That's like saying why quibble over a sandwich that costs £4 more in a pub than in tesco because you bought an expensive baguette once. (Yes, I am eating my lunch)
Football hasn't gone mad, well not over that pointless and meaningless exercise anyway. Who exactly is going to pay £216m for Neymar? NO ONE not even the Chinese (or the Daves)!
If you look at how they calculate the value, a big factor is how much they have cost in the past. Since Man City (allegedly) paid more than that for him, their algorithm has actually had him LOSE value. ;lol
Mrs G, all they are doing is following the "Levy" way of negotiating transfers. He has even made a profit on the cranes they bought to build their new stadium. ;whistle
Would prefer paying the English premium for Hogan. We've done alright at bringing players from the Championship and from what my Brentford-supporting FIFA buddy says, he has the attributes to adapt.
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(As reported on bbc today)
100%
Where's that gone?
At the time, we needed players in those positions.
And at the same time, Hogan had a track record of playing well in League 2, then missed nearly the full season with a severe injury (including a recurrence) and managed 7 games in the Championship.
If we'd used that money to buy Hogan, rather than Zaza, Tore, Arbeloa and Calleri, we'd have had a squad of 21, including 3 strikers that have all had long term, recurrent injuries.
2. You say you want a player that gives 100%, but then you name players and want rid/say they were rubbish signings because they didn't work out. Even if they have given 100%. Sort it out! ;wink
3. Can you put your hand on your heart and say you've never slagged the owners off for getting players nobody has ever heard of?? Scout's honour?!
It is not buying a player for more than they think he's worth, and not selling a player for less than they think he's worth.
Also, I don't get the argument that we were bidding x 6mths ago therefore we shouldn't quibble over £2/3m. That's like saying why quibble over a sandwich that costs £4 more in a pub than in tesco because you bought an expensive baguette once. (Yes, I am eating my lunch)
BBQ Jerk Chicken, boi
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/38635387
Snippet from the bottom:
"West Ham midfielder Michail Antonio makes the list at 100, with a value of £31m."
.....and Jon Stones is worth €48.9m/£43m. Jon Stones?!??!?!?
Laugh, I nearly.........
I'd have thought it would have been more than that......
Now we are talking. Would this be a better alternative to Hogan?
#cheekygirls
The next offer will be for 7M and a pack of jaffa cakes...
David Gold @davidgold
With a number of top Premier League players holding clubs to ransom is it time to close the January transfer window? dg
4:42 AM · Jan 16, 2017