January 2017 Transfer Speculation

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  • TheMadcapLaughsTheMadcapLaughs
    Mrs G ;ok
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    I'm going to go out on a limb and say we don't sign any first team players before the Boro game.
  • LukerzLukerz
    We'll have a striker by Boro.

    100%
  • brookingsironsbrookingsirons
    It will never last imo , nobody will keep
    Paying 500k a week it's doomed to failure
    And who do you take to court when it all
    Goes pear shaped...
  • TheMadcapLaughsTheMadcapLaughs
    £12million, £15million, nothing now, he is a gamble at either, but a bigger gamble is Carroll breaking down next match (or training session) with only Fletcher and Martinez as recognised strikers. We are not in the £50 million buys you a guaranteed goal machine league, so anyone we buy will be a gamble. Pay the money and get him in (plus a right back).
  • brookingsironsbrookingsirons
    yes his name is Andy Carroll ;ok
  • LukerzLukerz
    Amazing we were having £32m and £40m bids rejected only 6 months ago?

    Where's that gone?
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    On stupid loan deals.
  • TheMadcapLaughsTheMadcapLaughs
    Slaven_A_Laugh_Lukerz said:

    Amazing we were having £32m and £40m bids rejected only 6 months ago?

    Where's that gone?

    Payets Patisserie tab........................
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    TheMadcapLaughs said:

    Slaven_A_Laugh_Lukerz said:

    Amazing we were having £32m and £40m bids rejected only 6 months ago?

    Where's that gone?

    Payets Patisserie tab........................
    Payet's British Airways account although they've not got plenty of air miles........
  • brookingsironsbrookingsirons
    A big difference between offering 30/40m
    And paying it imo .

    Just saying
  • brookingsironsbrookingsirons
    This window maybe difficult, but if you really want a player and the selling club
    Wants x amount then pay it .

    I mean we wasted 5m on Zaza 2.5 on tore
    God knows what we're paying calleri and Spanish RB , put it this it would have paid
    Hogans fee ..
  • brookingsironsbrookingsirons
    As much as I like our owners , they are very good at telling the fans who and how much they bid for players , and how we missed out on this guy but not so good at actually signing these so called top players ..

    I would much rather we didn't make public who we missed out on and rather
    who we have signed , I'm also not even bothered about big names as long as the player is wanting to give 100% like cresswell and Antonio those sort of players are
    what we need not the big name guys who only come for the money.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    The Daves are trying to have their cake and eat it. On the one hand they are saying there's no way Dimi is going for less than £30M and on the other quibbling over a couple of million for Hogan.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited January 2017
    brookingsirons said:

    This window maybe difficult, but if you really want a player and the selling club
    Wants x amount then pay it .

    I mean we wasted 5m on Zaza 2.5 on tore
    God knows what we're paying calleri and Spanish RB , put it this it would have paid
    Hogans fee ..

    But that's just hindsight, saying what we spent on those players.

    At the time, we needed players in those positions.

    And at the same time, Hogan had a track record of playing well in League 2, then missed nearly the full season with a severe injury (including a recurrence) and managed 7 games in the Championship.

    If we'd used that money to buy Hogan, rather than Zaza, Tore, Arbeloa and Calleri, we'd have had a squad of 21, including 3 strikers that have all had long term, recurrent injuries.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited January 2017
    brookingsirons said:

    As much as I like our owners , they are very good at telling the fans who and how much they bid for players ...I'm also not even bothered about big names as long as the player is wanting to give 100% like cresswell and Antonio those sort of players are
    what we need not the big name guys who only come for the money.

    1. A lots of that 'how much they bid' is nonsense put about by so-called ITKs and the players' agents. The club almost never officially discloses how much was paid.

    2. You say you want a player that gives 100%, but then you name players and want rid/say they were rubbish signings because they didn't work out. Even if they have given 100%. Sort it out! ;wink

    3. Can you put your hand on your heart and say you've never slagged the owners off for getting players nobody has ever heard of?? Scout's honour?!
  • brookingsironsbrookingsirons
    Poor signings we all said that at the time or some of us did , doesn't change the fact
    that we are still in this position with Zaza gone Tore out for the season Calleri not playing Ayew AFCON , so really the squad is at the same position it was before .

    I hope we geta couple in so we have cover for big Andy .
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited January 2017
    thornburyiron said:

    The Daves are trying to have their cake and eat it. On the one hand they are saying there's no way Dimi is going for less than £30M and on the other quibbling over a couple of million for Hogan.

    How is that having your cake and eating it? ;hmm

    It is not buying a player for more than they think he's worth, and not selling a player for less than they think he's worth.

  • brookingsironsbrookingsirons
    I only ever seen Zaza Play like he was bothered once , and Tore well say no more .
    Calleri was like a fish out of water when he played .

    From what I've read and seen although a risk like Demba Ba was Hogan looks
    the real deal .
  • alderzalderz
    The trouble with saying that you'd rather the club didn't say who they'd bid for in case it doesn't happen is that people then complain that we should have been in for x, y, z and that the club has missed a trick by not going after someone we may well have gone after.

    Also, I don't get the argument that we were bidding x 6mths ago therefore we shouldn't quibble over £2/3m. That's like saying why quibble over a sandwich that costs £4 more in a pub than in tesco because you bought an expensive baguette once. (Yes, I am eating my lunch)
  • brookingsironsbrookingsirons
    Brentford paid 750k for Hogan 2 seasons ago and basically paid him to sit out
    for a year , we reportedly paid 10.7 m for Payet and want 30m I see no difference
    here but agree its down to what you want think a player is worth . ;ok
  • brookingsironsbrookingsirons
    alderz ;ok I hope its not a French mustard
  • alderzalderz
    brookings

    BBQ Jerk Chicken, boi
  • alderzalderz
    Has anyone seen this about the 100 most valuable players?

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/38635387

    Snippet from the bottom:

    "West Ham midfielder Michail Antonio makes the list at 100, with a value of £31m."
  • brookingsironsbrookingsirons
    alderz , beats my ham and cheese ;lol
  • brookingsironsbrookingsirons
    Football has gone mad , and how can Pogba who is average imo be worth more than the 96m Man unt paid for him .. I meeen if you had a choice of that top 10 would
    you really pay 126m for pogba ;ok
  • MarkNobleLocalHeroMarkNobleLocalHero
    Football hasn't gone mad, well not over that pointless and meaningless exercise anyway. Who exactly is going to pay £216m for Neymar? NO ONE not even the Chinese (or the Daves)!
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    alderz - it also lists Bellerin as worth €70.3m/£62m, Otamendi € 63.1m/£55.5m...

    .....and Jon Stones is worth €48.9m/£43m. Jon Stones?!??!?!?

    Laugh, I nearly.........
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    If you look at how they calculate the value, a big factor is how much they have cost in the past. Since Man City (allegedly) paid more than that for him, their algorithm has actually had him LOSE value. ;lol
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Indeed, minus £4.5m in five months, that's a devaluation of 900k per month.

    I'd have thought it would have been more than that......
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