Slaven Bilic named as West Ham Manager (09.06.15)

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  • LukerzLukerz
    edited December 2016
    He's basically gone all in with yesterdays comments. Made it black and white, with no murky area in between.

    If the players don't respond positively, in training and then in matches, he'll be gone, because it will just highlight they're not on board with him. He knows it. He knows he's played his ace card early and if it doesn't pay off he'll have nothing else.

    Needs a performance full of guts against LFC, no matter the outcome, and then a win over Burnley, otherwise it'll be curtains.
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    I will be gutted if he loses his job...
    But it's a results business and this season we are lacking them...
    I'd sooner stick with him and see if he can handle it, we have had so many worse managers IMO ...
    But time will tell, has got to have till Xmas surely ...
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited December 2016
    I don't want him sacked either.

    Last season was sensational. You don't become bad after 14 games. He showed how good he was tactically with the wins against the big teams.

    But we know the Dave's will not watch us slide to the foot of the table in our new 'glorious' home.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    He needs 8 points against Burnley Hull Swansea Leicester. If not then he is gone ;wave
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    That's our season right there. Need to be targeting a minimum of 9 points.

    Last season was excellent. This season so far has been awful. He deserves time but if we don't get anything out of the games above then there may be no choice but to let him go.
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    Think he's looking for a reaction from the players. LFC isn't the one, it's the three after that are important.

  • LukerzLukerz
    We need to go back to Payet central. He's not involved enough out wide and we all know about his tracking back ability.
  • LukerzLukerz
    Randolph
    Antonio - Reid - Ogbonna - Cresswell
    Kouyate - Obiang
    Ayew - Payet - Lanzini
    Carroll

    Can we get that XI out in the coming weeks?
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Not sure what the laws are on allowing crutches on the pitch.
  • LukerzLukerz
    Thing with Slav is I thought he'd be a bit angry as a manager. Like 'you wouldn't want to mess with him'. But he's quite the opposite. Open, honest, nice...

    Maybe the players are taking the mick. Think they can get away with it as he's a bit soft.
  • HammerdublinHammerdublin
    Exactly. Those lazy, overpaid crybabies need a firmer hand, not a Mr. Nice Guy.
  • jay_in_cptjay_in_cpt
    Not sure off camera he'd be so ok....
  • HammerdublinHammerdublin
    Look at Bournemouth: a weaker team than ours beat Liverpool today. This is what happens when the manager can motivate the players. And then look at what is going on under Bilic.
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    Slaven_A_Laugh_Lukerz said:

    We need to go back to Payet central. He's not involved enough out wide and we all know about his tracking back ability.

    Was thinking the exact same
    Thing when I watched the game back
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    Slaven_A_Laugh_Lukerz said:

    Thing with Slav is I thought he'd be a bit angry as a manager. Like 'you wouldn't want to mess with him'. But he's quite the opposite. Open, honest, nice...

    Maybe the players are taking the mick. Think they can get away with it as he's a bit soft.

    I think he's both, just wondering if it creates a little bit of a "favourite" culture?

    It's fine ruling with an iron fist when you're getting results but when your not.....
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    Yeoldhammer said:

    He needs 8 points against Burnley Hull Swansea Leicester. If not then he is gone ;wave

    He/We probably needs more than Eight points from those 4 games.

  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    might need more but after those 4 games 20 points from 19. is minimum he needs to keep his job imo. Anything less and he should go.
  • sweepy23sweepy23
    Bilic will turn it around. Keep the faith.
  • claretandblueskyclaretandbluesky
    I think one of the issues is that I would imagine the Daves are looking to spend in January (lets hope so ), but would they trust Slav with the cash after the complete mess up that was the summer transfer window?

    I think he can turn it around and when players are fit and with a new face or two in January we will begin to resemble last season, and that will take us clear.

    I think Reid will be a big player as he looks up for it and has on occasion lately hit his best form, he looks more and more like a leader also so I would give him the armband and ask him to take charge on the pitch, hopefully that will spur others on. Noble may not be happy but he is having one good game in every four at present and I think we need more.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    Carroll will probably not last 10 games though
  • LukerzLukerz
    'Crunch' talks today with board:
    http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11685/10684129/slaven-bilic-faces-crunch-talks-with-west-ham-board
  • SwissironSwissiron
    Bilic needs to put six things right
    1. Stop being stubborn with his picks, eg playing Zaza in the desperate hope that he'll suddenly come good
    2. Bring the Noble era to an end by making Reid captain and Noble a dependable stop gap squad player
    3. Sack the ex-players on the staff - eg Julian etc who are doing nothing
    4. Play Payet central, build the team around him
    5. Give more playing time to Academy youngsters wherever possible
    6. Insist on one big experienced striker in the January window, and offload all the failing strikers
    Job done ;ok
  • alderzalderz
    I disagree with the Noble thing, and the coaches thing, and the Payet thing. Otherwise ;ok
  • LukerzLukerz
    Problem is you would expect intensity in training to be flat if there is no confidence. You won't have the lads buzzing about after 5-1, 4-1, 4-2, 3-0 stuffings. The mood will be low. It's a vicious circle. You need confidence to get that buzz back.

    I was worried earlier in the season with the whole Antonio situation. Bilic made a call that Antonio was his RB, Antonio gave up and wasn't having it after 45 mins in the first game of the season. Then Bilic backed down and said 'ok, I'll play you RW'. Just completely undermined him and showed he could be walked over.

    That's why I've been cold on Antonio ever since. Pathetic attitude after that half at Chelsea.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    In Bilic I trust.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    alderz said:

    I disagree with the Noble thing, and the coaches thing, and the Payet thing. Otherwise ;ok

    I agree with your disagree ;ok
  • NEoldironNEoldiron
    Luke, your comment about the 5-1 stuffing (among others), contrast that with Troy Deeney's comment on BBC today.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38203519

    ""When we played them (Leicester), in November, we did things a bit differently and decided to start by going at them.
    It was our first game since losing 6-1 to Liverpool, so our approach was a bit of a ploy to try to get our fans back onside straight away."
    ;hmm
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    So, we sack Slav after a poor run of results. We get someone in. They have a poor run of results (which they are almost bound to have at some point), so we sack them.

    Rinse and repeat, ad nauseum.

    Or, we don't panic, accept that football is a game of fluctuating fortunes and let Slav get on with the job he did so well last season.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    Results based business these days.
  • alderzalderz
    It's always been a results based business. It's just a panic driven business now, which is ridiculous.
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