The UK is Out - New PM - and whither now for Article 50

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  • Colchester_IronColchester_Iron
    Agreed Moojor. I'm sure they will be looking for a referendum.

    The referendum yesterday was about Britain's membership of the EU. Not Scotland's membership of the EU.

    I see what you and other people are driving at. Personally, I am not bothered if the Scots have an annual referendum on UK membership. Just thought I would point out a couple of facts.



  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Since 1945 there have been thirteen Prime Ministers of which six took office when their predecessor quit and only one - Anthony Eden - called an immediate General Election

    The question is will Corbyn resign because unless he quits he's likely to win should there be a challenge. Earlier this year there was a poll of Labour members on that scenario, over 60% backed Corbyn, more than when he was elected leader.
  • simoncsimonc
    Looks like the Euro savings will need to be spent on rebuilding Hadrian's wall, the Scott's will keep voting till they get the answer they want, that's what they call democracy
  • McHammerMcHammer
    62% of voters in Scotland wanted to stay (74% in my city of Edinburgh). The mood here is not a happy one.
  • simoncsimonc
    If i am not mistaken, the UK voted and the UK decided, the 48% pro Euro faction are spread throughout the UK not just Scotland. Is Scotland going to continue to threaten to leave every time it doesn't get what it wants?
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Scotland took an independence vote based on the UK being in Europe. The playing field has changed considerably and so, imo, they should get to vote again.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Bit like what the UK has done in respect of European Union. ;ok
  • Colchester_IronColchester_Iron
    edited June 2016
    We can always vote to go back in after the EU has been reformed and the playing field has changed.
  • simoncsimonc
    So if the Scottish and Northern Ireland votes had kept the UK in Europe then no one would have questioned England and Wales having another referendum to split the UK?
    I think not
  • madridhammermadridhammer
    McHammer said:

    62% of voters in Scotland wanted to stay (74% in my city of Edinburgh). The mood here is not a happy one.

    McHammer-I'm genuinely on your side over this one & I hope Scotland gets its independence a.s.a.p.
  • madridhammermadridhammer
    Ok, I have a vested interest because I live in Madrid so let's get that one out of the way.
    Looking at the bigger picture I'm utterly terrified for our country,I'm furious that the over 65s have swung the vote towards leave & ruined the prospects of the nation's youth & fearful that the likes of Farage could have a serious say in how the country is run.The man is evil.
  • madridhammermadridhammer
    SuzanneClaret said:

    Good.

    Labour need a strong person at the helm..... someone to combat Boris.

    Andy Burnham for me.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    madridhammer said:

    SuzanneClaret said:

    Good.

    Labour need a strong person at the helm..... someone to combat Boris.

    Andy Burnham for me.
    Oh yes... great shout ;ok
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    A lot of uncertainty ahead for high street banks, as all our armed robbers come back from Spain.

    Credit; Frankie Boyle
  • Colchester_IronColchester_Iron
    edited June 2016
    We are still allowed to have police.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    madridhammer said:

    Ok, I have a vested interest because I live in Madrid so let's get that one out of the way.
    Looking at the bigger picture I'm utterly terrified for our country,I'm furious that the over 65s have swung the vote towards leave

    Interesting analysis here of the demographics of the In/Out voters. (scroll down a bit).
    Comparing the results to key demographic characteristics of the local authority areas, some patterns emerge more clearly than others. The best predictor of a vote for remain is the proportion of residents who have a degree.
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2016/jun/23/eu-referendum-live-results-and-analysis
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    simonc said:

    So if the Scottish and Northern Ireland votes had kept the UK in Europe then no one would have questioned England and Wales having another referendum to split the UK?
    I think not

    To be frank Simon, I don't think you will get to decide.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    edited June 2016
    Colchester_Iron said:

    We are still allowed to have police.

    Not if Theresa May has anything to do with it.

    #group4
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Ian Abrahams (Moose) ‏@BroadcastMoose 17m17 minutes ago

    Enjoyed my cup of tea overlooking the Eiffel Tower only cost 3 Euros or at current rates a council house in Barrow ;lol
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Madrid why have the over 65s ruined the prospects of our youth. The way the EU is going it wouldn't have benefited anyone. The majority of the EU are now eurosceptic and referenda elsewhere could also lead to a leave vote.
    What you forget or never knew was that the over 65s knew it before we joined and at the time it was purely a trade arrangement. However at that time Germany and France were already planning a political union.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    The drop in currency values they keep on about is from the figures at 10pm after the big banks had expected an in vote and we're starting on their "let's make billions out of this" philosophy.
    The £$ rate is not much different to the rate I got when I went to Florida earlier this year.
  • McHammerMcHammer
    madridhammer said:

    McHammer said:

    62% of voters in Scotland wanted to stay (74% in my city of Edinburgh). The mood here is not a happy one.

    McHammer-I'm genuinely on your side over this one & I hope Scotland gets its independence a.s.a.p.
    cheers. for ref i voted against independance and to remain in the E.U.
  • ironmike44ironmike44
    Madrid - as somebody who lives in Spain, are you equally furious at the EU's inability to tackle the very high level of youth unemployment in that country? Many of them with degrees can't even get a job serving coffee in Starbucks - unlike our own graduates, many of whom have been able able to secure such exulted positions as a result of the benign intervention of the EU.
    They will of course, all shortly lose their livelihoods and futures, as a result of us oldies have have the temerity to express our view, having experienced the full 40 years of EU mismanagement, in a referendum. Shame on us, we really ought to shuffle off to our rooms in the care home, and stay out of important issues which, unless we have a degree, we clearly are not qualified or entitled to meddle in.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Can people please think about the tone of their posts?

    Let's not start making this personal.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    I love this statement - "Many of them with degrees can't even get a job serving coffee in Starbucks".

    Why should having a degree make anyone automatically suitable to work in a coffee shop? ;hmm
  • MoojorMoojor
    Sadly, what's done is done.

    I truely hope that the leave campaigns promises about things being all great come to pass.

    I hope that in 20 years my daughter can tell me that I was wrong and things turned out well.

    I hope that I can look at my daughter in 20 years and at her friends and say, we didn't totally mess thing up for your generation.

    Right now, I just don't believe that any of the above is going to come to pass.

    ;poppy
  • ironmike44ironmike44
    Herb - think you missed my, clumsily put, point. I was trying to point out that in Spain, where Madridhammer resides, youth unemployment is so high that even jobs serving coffee are almost impossible to get. Regardless of the individuals education, Spain's continued membership of the EU seems unlikely to change this situation.
  • Colchester_IronColchester_Iron
    Moojor, amen to that.
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    I guess now is the most important time in politics of my lifetime. There's no point telling people they voted the wrong way and even someone in mid-20s strongly against a major aspect of the out campaign, I don't like this "old people ruined it" thing. Older people might not live through much of the changes but I'm sure they thought it would be good for their children.

    I think the most important thing is that everyone stays switched on about all these claims about how they would improve the country after a Brexit. If it wasn't all about immigration, then we have to make sure they do actually make policies that go beyond that. I think that's everyone's responsibility. Otherwise the country has effectively just had a vote on hating other people.
  • IrondukeIronduke
    Consider this, Mark Carney, a Canadian head of our bank of England has recently divulged publicly the fiscal measures to stablise the economy in the advent of a leave victory. The measures have been raified by the IMf and European Central Bank, and given their support!

    ;hmm why did`nt he reassure voters of his plans intead of painting a doom version
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