Summer Transfer Window 2023

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  • IronHerbIronHerb
    So where does window play?

    Coat?
  • BarneyBarney
    'no doubt' and 'probably' seem to be a contradiction in terms. i think Moyes meant 'we definitely might get players in'.
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited August 2023
    With the imminent arrival of Mavropanos, our current squad depth looks like:

    Areola
    Coufal - Zouma - Aguerd - Emerson
    Soucek - Ward-Prowse - Paqueta
    Bowen - Antonio - Benrahma

    Fabianski
    Kehrer - Mavropanos - Ogbonna - Cresswell
    CM - Alvarez - Fornals
    RW - Ings - Cornet

    So we have a gap in our forward line & in CM. We seem to be linked with Doku tonight, who is a RW. Lingard could also support that role or the spare CM spot.
  • secrethammersfansecrethammersfan
    Fortuneseeker said:

    Some might say DM is trying to spend all the money we have in an attempt to ensure any new manager doesn't have any funds to buy new players?

    Because that’s how it works? A manager gets to spend over £100 million on whoever he wants without any questions from a board who may be considering replacing him? Was the moon landing filmed in a studio?
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited August 2023
    Fortuneseeker said:

    Some might say DM is trying to spend all the money we have in an attempt to ensure any new manager doesn't have any funds to buy new players?

    Who are these 'some'?

    Based on what I've read, absolutely nobody is saying that.


    Re, Moyes' transfer window strategy is to engineer a scenario where any future manager has no budget...
    Is that what you actually think?

  • claretandblueskyclaretandbluesky
    Any manager knows he is judged on results so will spend whatever they have to improve their squad to help those results. As long as its targeted players I am happy for him to spend every penny Sully says is available to him.
  • alderzalderz
    Can’t believe Moyes is hoping to spend the money available to him. What a disgrace.
  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    Sevilla want to sign West Ham's 27-year-old Spanish midfielder Pablo Fornals, who is in the final year of his contract and would cost between £4.3m and £6.8m

    Ok... My first thought... Who can anyone buy for 6m these days??? Thuis isnt fantasy football! Fornals is a good player and a good age too. Why would anyone sell him for that? Also, I believe hes worth offering new contract too and he seems like a popular player in the squad too. Lastly,I dont believe the price being quoted but its more to do with someone actually thinking they could print this!
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    edited August 2023
    Not a great bargaining position to be in knowing Fornald only had 10 months left of his contract

    If he hasn't been offered a new one, which would be insane even if we didn't rate him as a new contract would protect his value, then we only have ourselves to blame

    Losing fornals for less than £20mil would be criminal, but it wouldn't surprise me given the situation

    Need to extend his (and Soucek deals) can't have two lads in their primes of their career go for peanuts / free

    EDIT: Seen some places say we have a 1 year extension activation clause which surely we should be looking to activate
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    'Need to extend his (and Soucek deals) can't have two lads in their primes of their career go for peanuts / free'

    Soucek has just signed a 4 year extension.
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    IronHerb said:

    'Need to extend his (and Soucek deals) can't have two lads in their primes of their career go for peanuts / free'

    Soucek has just signed a 4 year extension.

    Must have missed that

    Is it official, can't see it on the Official website
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    https://theathletic.com/live-blogs/transfer-news-live-latest-updates/p1gbsmRBiOat/25PRp88mu5sX/
  • SlackerSlacker
    Fortuneseeker said:

    Some might say DM is trying to spend all the money we have in an attempt to ensure any new manager doesn't have any funds to buy new players?

    Must admit I missed this pearler.

    Always good to start the day with a good laugh though, so thanks for that mate.👍

  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Bournemouth sign Tyler Adams for "in excess of £20m"
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    edited August 2023
    Lukerz said:

    With the imminent arrival of Mavropanos, our current squad depth looks like:

    Areola
    Coufal - Zouma - Aguerd - Emerson
    Soucek - Ward-Prowse - Paqueta
    Bowen - Antonio - Benrahma

    Fabianski
    Kehrer - Mavropanos - Ogbonna - Cresswell
    CM - Alvarez - Fornals
    RW - Ings - Cornet

    So we have a gap in our forward line & in CM. We seem to be linked with Doku tonight, who is a RW. Lingard could also support that role or the spare CM spot.

    Think the two players for each position is a bit outdated in practise these days

    You look at the big teams, they are full of world class but versatile players, usually of around 15 or 16 players who have a genuine shot at a place in the team, followed by about 4 or so back-ups that are used as and when they are required
  • alderzalderz
    I agree with that, but I also think that it's tricky to visualise that easily.

    If you're talking 'players with a genuine shot' at a place in the XI, I would say we have:

    Areola / Fabianski / Coufal / Kehrer / Zouma / Aguerd / Emerson / Cresswell / Soucek / JWP / Alvarez / Fornals / Paqueta / Bowen / Antonio / Benrahma

    And then your other backups would be:

    Ogbonna / Ings / Cornet
  • EXETERHAMMEREXETERHAMMER
    If Fornals leaves, I will be gutted
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    Fornals is a good squad player, selling him for sub 10m is a joke. Would rather let him go on a free than sell at that price.
  • EXETERHAMMEREXETERHAMMER
    edited August 2023
    I can't remember a game where Fornals failed to make a significant pass, assist, score or at least create a great chance. He also works his socks off and is passionate about our club. Why oh why would we let him go. Give hime a new contract now and play him instead of Benhrama.
  • LukerzLukerz
    When are we going to have a chat about Benrahma?
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    Lukerz said:

    When are we going to have a chat about Benrahma?

    After we upgrade both full backs, a Soucek replacement and a striker. Benrahma is then on the chopping block.
  • alderzalderz
    Yeoldhammer said:

    Lukerz said:

    When are we going to have a chat about Benrahma?

    After we upgrade both full backs, a Soucek replacement and a striker. Benrahma is then on the chopping block.
    Rice & Soucek have been replaced by Alvarez & Ward-Prowse, surely?
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    Alvarez replaced Rice and JWP is probably the Downes replacement if he ends up going the other way
  • alderzalderz
    Yeoldhammer said:

    Alvarez replaced Rice and JWP is probably the Downes replacement if he ends up going the other way

    But Downes never started, so if what you want is for Soucek to be out of the starting line up then Alvarez replaces Rice, Ward-Prowse replaces Soucek, Soucek replaces Downes.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    Maybe thats how it ends up will have to see when Moyes puts his team out next week if he decides to give Alvarez a start and see whom he drops.
  • alderzalderz
    I am 100% certain Soucek will start next week. But I'm also certain that signing another CM isn't going to change that, tbh. I think we're getting to a point where we have 4 CMs that realistically are good enough to start for us (Soucek, Alvarez, JWP, Paqueta), which is great, and will see us rotating more than we have in the past.
  • DJ HammerDJ Hammer
    MrsGrey said:

    Konstantinos Mavropanos

    Kono Ropano has a ring to it. 🙂

  • IronHerbIronHerb
    DJ Hammer said:

    MrsGrey said:

    Konstantinos Mavropanos

    Kono Ropano has a ring to it. 🙂

    Isn't that a beach in Brazil? 😎
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    edited August 2023
    alderz said:

    I agree with that, but I also think that it's tricky to visualise that easily.

    If you're talking 'players with a genuine shot' at a place in the XI, I would say we have:

    Areola / Fabianski / Coufal / Kehrer / Zouma / Aguerd / Emerson / Cresswell / Soucek / JWP / Alvarez / Fornals / Paqueta / Bowen / Antonio / Benrahma

    And then your other backups would be:

    Ogbonna / Ings / Cornet

    The way I view it, if you play a front/midfield 3 you have 5 players who compete for those positions, not 6

    And that 5 is usually 2 or 3 of those are specialists in one area and the others are a bit more versatile

    Like Liverpool have Salah (RW) and Dias (LW) supported by 3 versatile guys in Nunes, Jota and Gakpo

    Arsenal have something similar Nketiah (CF), Saka (RW) and Martinelli (LW) supported by Trossard and Jesus who can play across the front 3

    Man City actually have a small squad, their midfield/attack conssits of 6 players and is competed with Rodri, Kovacic, Phillips, Foden, Bernardo, Grealish, Palmer, Haaland & Alvarez. That's 9 players for 6 positions

    Easier to do with money and better quality players but don't need a full squad of 25 anymore, all to compete for minutes
  • LukerzLukerz
    Football Insider (possibly worst source on planet) say we’ve made a bid of around £35m-£40m for Solanke.
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