The January Transfer Window

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  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    That's a good take baracks. I would imagine most clubs have decent cover in all positions, but our business in the summer (and subsequently this month) have left major holes in our squad. We started the season with the smallest squad in the league so our need is probably greater than most, particularly as we've now got rid of two players that were regularly in the match day eighteen.
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    I thing our problem might be we had too many high earners that were n't really contributing much, Anderson/Haller/Wilshere/Yarmolenko all on massive wages . I think Moyes and the club are trying to trim the wage bill , offload players that are n't the future whilst freeing up the budget to sign new players. I think we were pretty close the the FFP limits under Pellegrini and its going to take awhile to sort out.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    C&H reporting that Moyes has a list of eight strikers he's interested in, most of which have not been mentioned in the media, but won't bring any of them in until the final few days of the window.

    So that's potentially five games, including more winnable games against Burnley, West Brom and Palace, that we might have to play with very limited options up front.
  • yoyoyoyo
    I don't see the point of identifying a player and then not making an approach. Surely something is going on in the background. The sooner they get involved the better but no knee jerk reaction, they must be right and fit in
  • LukerzLukerz
    It’s a tough one. On one hand you don’t want to pack the squad with players who are not right & won’t push the first team players, but you also want to not be left short should we have a case of COVID or an injury or two.

    Balbuena & Fredericks have been isolating according to Ex. They are two players where we do have cover. If it becomes Antonio or Soucek/Rice or Cresswell, then we have a problem.
  • buffybegoodbuffybegood
    The squad is negligently thin atm, especially as we've got genuinely winnable games coming up. Unfortunately Sully has form for doing deals late in a window as he desperately tries to get something through on the cheap; it happens nearly every window and means we've frequently started the season without potentially key players in the team (one of the reasons I am particularly in favour of the summer window closing before the start of the season).

    In January it often means we play games without players we desperately need while Sully tries to get an extra bob or two off the price; we're also just as likely to miss out entirely, or drop points we could have won during January. We rarely seem to act decisively at the start of January, even when deficiencies in the squad have been evident throughout the whole of the first half of the season.
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    Thr problem is players and agents often want to leave to late in the window in case they get a better offer and can hold teams desperate for players to ransom abit over wages fees etc
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    edited January 2021
    We should just make the transfer window one day long. No more boring deadline days.
  • buffybegoodbuffybegood
    If we ever get back to normality , and they do go ahead with a winter break, I think they should do it to coincide with the transfer window.
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    We almost got relegated because the team had problems. Moyes is trying to solve those problems carefully and cautiously, not by simply throwing money at it and hoping to land a decent player among a load of duds.

    Since he's arrived each player has brought improvements; Bowen, Soucek, Randolph and Coufal. Benrahma and Dawson on loan are "trials", Dawson seems to fit but I'd say the jury is still out on Benrahma

    We're almost half way through the transfer window and it is exceptionally quiet, even those in the relegation zone don't seem to be in a buying mood.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    I don’t think anyone is saying throw money at potential duds are they? Neither are they questioning Moyes’ choices

    However West Ham have moved on every single one of their specialist centre forwards one way or another. That’s the position we are in going into two very winnable games. So the finger is pointing at the owners right now. As per.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    edited January 2021
    ASLEFshrugged said:

    We almost got relegated because the team had problems. Moyes is trying to solve those problems carefully and cautiously, not by simply throwing money at it and hoping to land a decent player among a load of duds.

    But we are where we are because we don't have an adequate scouting system. Moyes has been here for a year now and has clearly never rated Haller. What we should have been doing for months now is identifying potential replacements and be ready to go as soon as a window opens in the knowledge that if an acceptable bid is made for Haller, we can accept it and move for one of the identified players as an immediate replacement. Instead we appear to have sold Haller with no one lined up or even identified, and have limited that search to a little over two weeks with teams knowing we're now desperate for a striker.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    OutcastLondoner said:

    We should just make the transfer window one day long. No more boring deadline days.

    A sort of 'supermarket sweep' approach.



    (reminds me a bit of doing the Fantasy Football Draft a couple of seasons ago....)
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited January 2021
    Haller was an odd signing. His attributes (unless he really has changed as a player since signing) do not really match what we wanted. We excelled with Arnie as a main striker under Pelle, sold him & replaced him with a completely different striker. Haller is not fast or powerful, which Arnie was, & looks more like a hold up forward, which is not really how Pelle was shaping us to play anyway. Arnie was explosive, in a similar way Antonio is. Haller is not. Once we have a cohesive strategy for signing players who fit what we are trying to build, that would be great.
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    MrsGrey said:

    A sort of 'supermarket sweep' approach.

    Only if Dale Winton is doing it, miles better than the other bloke (the ex-Mrs shrugged watches it)

  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    edited January 2021
    Strategy, as you say Lukerz, is key. Haller, Antonio, Arnautovic, Hernandez, Perez, Zaza, Calleri and Carroll have all been through the club over the last few years. All so different and the only two that arguably worked were the two that aren't even strikers. It doesn't help that we've been through a few managers in that time, but what we need is for Moyes to be given a three year deal and allow him (not Sullivan or Salthouse) to build a team. Our transfer policy has to reflect what he wants and believes is right. Question is, will he ever get that under Sullivan.
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    From today's press conference, Moyes on his plans for the January transfer window

    "I'm looking at four wins in the next four games. Nothing to do with other players at other clubs - I want to win the next four games if I can. If someone else comes along who can help us win the next games, we'll look at it, but the most important people are the players in this building at the moment.

    "Winning the games, players improving - that's what we want to do."
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Our getting Haller was (if memory serves) following a long, and ultimately failed pursuit of Maxi Gomez. It’s almost as though Sully (or Husillos) was determined to actually land a big draw signing come what may. So maybe the diligence in terms of actual qualities needed for the Prem was lesser on him. Who knows

  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    To add, having failed with maxi Gomez, with hindsight we’d have been far better off with someone like Salomon Rondon. The fans would have been up in arms and vented their fury at the board, but even someone like Rondon would have been far more effective for us than Haller ever was.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    ASLEFshrugged said:



    "I'm looking at four wins in the next four games. Nothing to do with other players at other clubs - I want to win the next four games if I can.

    Oh Lord-erz

    We could be with Jorderdici longer than we are in lockdown

  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    baracks_a_hammer said:

    ASLEFshrugged said:



    "I'm looking at four wins in the next four games. Nothing to do with other players at other clubs - I want to win the next four games if I can.

    Oh Lord-erz

    We could be with Jorderdici longer than we are in lockdown

    Burnley is usually a good time to riot for change
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    Course he’s looking for four wins it’s what he does he wins football matches
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    22-year-old winger Dan Kemp has joined Leyton Orient on a permanent deal.
  • alderzalderz
    OldCastleSwift said:

    Strategy, as you say Lukerz, is key. Haller, Antonio, Arnautovic, Hernandez, Perez, Zaza, Calleri and Carroll have all been through the club over the last few years. All so different and the only two that arguably worked were the two that aren't even strikers. It doesn't help that we've been through a few managers in that time, but what we need is for Moyes to be given a three year deal and allow him (not Sullivan or Salthouse) to build a team. Our transfer policy has to reflect what he wants and believes is right. Question is, will he ever get that under Sullivan.

    This is exactly why we all wanted a Director of Football that wasn’t part of a pair with one manager. We need some consistency if we’re going to change manager as often as we do.

    It’s scandalous that 10 years down the line we are still relying on one or two agents for the vast majority of our transfer business. I mean, pause and think how INSANE it is that our best scout is also our centre miss fielder.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    the earliest any of that will change is 2023 IMO.
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Tuttomercatoweb.com say Graziano Pelle is in talks with Al Wahda of the UAE Pro League

    He'll probably be happier in Abu Dhabi...
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    I'll be happier if he is in Abu Dhabi too.
  • yoyoyoyo
    Abu Dhabi Too....... wasn't that the Flintstones?
  • Expat_HammerExpat_Hammer
    yoyo said:

    Abu Dhabi Too....... wasn't that the Flintstones?

    Dubai don't show the Flintstones, BUT ..... Abu Dahbi do
  • yoyoyoyo
    WEST HAM WORKING FOR A STRIKER'

    Sky Sports News reporter Kaveh Solhekol told The Transfer Show:

    "West Ham certainly are working very hard to get a striker. It's difficult with David Moyes because he keeps his cards so close to his chest when it comes to transfers. Last January for instance, when they signed Tomas Soucek on loan, not many people saw that coming. 

    "He's very particularly when it comes to transfers and doesn't take many risks. Historically, West Ham are the kind of club who have taken a chance on players, some have worked out but a lot of them haven't. Moyes has a different way of working. 

    "I know they're interested in Boulaye Dia from Reims in France. I think it would be a bit of a risk because if you look at his record, he's having a good season at the moment but he didn't set the world alight last season. So it would be a risk to see whether he could settle into the Premier League. 

    "I've got a feeling that Moyes will come up with a signing that nobody has been aware of or working on something behind the scenes."

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