According to Sky Fofana played 24 times for St Etienne last season and they qualified for the Europa league and got to the French cup final. French media reckon he will be a player in great demand next summer.
19 year old with no experience but plenty of potential
Are we just picking names out of a hat and see which one drops
its called the "we bid for our initial target didn't get anywhere close to their evaluation pinned all our hopes on said target. uh-oh our back up is ? anyone who has had 1 decent season at a club somewhere."
Leicester City have had a €32m (£29.5m) offer for centre-back Wesley Fofana rejected by Saint-Etienne, reports in France say.
Fofana is City’s number one target in their pursuit of a new central defender, but their attempts to sign the wantaway teenager are being knocked back by the Ligue 1 club and their manager Claude Puel.
L’Equipe report that the latest offer, submitted on Monday night, is City’s third to Saint-Etienne, with previous bids going in at €25m (£23m) and €28.5m (£26.2m)
It appears even the "top" clubs like to try it on a bit. Tarkowski wouldn't have much of a sell on value. Rugani would be a loan deal whilst Fofana rips up the Premier League and we sell him for a massive profit to a Champions League team in a few years. It's a no brainer isn't it?
Chelsea will sell defender Antonio Rudiger to raise funds to sign West Ham's Declan Rice, according to the Daily Express.
Sky Sports News reported yesterday that Rudiger is considering his future after being left out of the squad for Sunday’s defeat at Liverpool.
Rudiger wants to play regular football to secure his place in Germany’s squad for next summer’s European Championships. If Chelsea do allow him to leave, it is thought they would prefer he didn’t go to a Premier League rival. Rudiger’s contract is up in the summer of 2022
It seems that the meejah are desperate for Rice to go to chavski.
Its still a move that makes no sense from their perspective as well
To get the best out of Havertz and/or Mount, they will have to play 4231 with one of those 2 in the #10 position
So if you assume at least one of those two will play down the middle (maybe both?), that leaves Rice up against Kante, Jorginho, Kovacic, Loftus-Cheek and Barkley for 1 or 2 spots
Or he could play as a CB in a back 2, which Rice hasn't done since he was in the youth team, and even then he's up against Silva, Zuma, Rudiger, Tomori and Cristensen
Also I don't believe that Rice is asking for a transfer
West Ham are ready to compete with Manchester United for Swansea City's Wales centre-back Joe Rodon, 22. (Guardian)
Thats like me taking on Usain Bolt over 100 metres
I don’t know, they have been pretty ineffective in the transfer market too, tbh
Think a lot of teams are struggling to shift players, and I think it's the wage bills that are capping a lot of teams
The fact Prem clubs give such lucrative contracts, potential foreign buyers can never match them so the clubs are having to still pay a proportion of their wages, similarly to how we got rid of Roberto
Obviously they are on another planet than us, but you see Barcelona letting players (good ones) go for a couple million here or there, but apparently they have managed to trim their wage bill by £35mil per year
Wages in the Premier League have been pushed up by TV money, the other European leagues don't get nearly as much (Real Madrid, Barcelona, Juventus, etc. obviously get more than clubs in the same league because they're always in the Champions League).
The Express says that Rice will tell the club he wants to go to Chelsea but their source is "transfer expert Fabrizio Romano" who has been wrong in the past.
Apparently something he said on some podcast. I haven't seen much to suggest his contacts are the type that would know Rice's plans, unless maybe it's Rice's agent.
I'd be surprised if Rice wanted to leave knowing the situation he could be leaving us in at this point in the window. It'd be so remarkably stupid on our part to sell him at this point, when
I think there must be a good chance Rice will ask for a move to Chelsea. Why would he go through another shocking season with West Ham when you can be part of a team that is going to try and win things at home and abroad. The board have let the players and fans down for years now and nothing will change. We have no money for players but Karen Brady gets a fortune and all she has ever done is sell our ground and move us to a soul less athletic stadium . How hard was that ?
I know we don't want Rice to leave, but I don't think it is the worse thing that could happen. If Rice were to get a serious injury we would be in a right mess, where as if we get say £75,000 for him, we could get three decent players that we need, and if one of them gets injured,like Rice, we still have two decent players.
On paper, I don't disagree. The idea of selling your top asset for as much as possible to rebuild the squad is a sound one, and something that clubs like Leicester, Ajax, Dortmund and others have made a real success of over the past however many years.
However, a lot of clubs muck it up by bringing in too much dross instead of the quality they need. No part of me trusts David Sullivan with that money, and I truly believe it would be another Rio Ferdinand situation, where we replace genuine quality with garbage like Titi Camara and Rigobert Song.
Its a bit like the Rio situation, Rice is a "Rolls Royce" player in a squad that mostly seems to be Ford Fiestas. Like any footballer he will want to play at the highest level he can and if the club can't match his ambition then he'll want to move to a club that can.
At the moment there's very little indication that we're going to be anything more than a mid-table club for the foreseeable future so it shouldn't be a surprise if Rice decided that he needed to leave to advance his career.
If we sell him at the end of the window we will have no time to sign other players and end up paying over the odds if we do as they will know we are desperate and have the Rice money
It's not that Rice would want to leave, it's the timing. I think he does care for the club and would know it would plunge us into big problems.
If this was really happening, they would've sold him early on or planned purchases ahead of his sale. The money will be completely wasted and/or can't be used until January.
I know we don't want Rice to leave, but I don't think it is the worse thing that could happen. If Rice were to get a serious injury we would be in a right mess, where as if we get say £75,000 for him, we could get three decent players that we need, and if one of them gets injured,like Rice, we still have two decent players.
Even G&S wouldn’t sell Rice for $75K!!!! Where are these decent players we can pick up for £25M a piece? And if we haven’t picked up one this window, what makes you think we’ll be able to get three?
- "The player wanted to move and we respected that wish" - "It was in the best interests of the team to sell and reinvest the money into player acquisitions" - "Chelsea's offer was too good to refuse" - "David Moyes had indicated he would give his blessing to sanction the deal"
Followed by:-
- "Unfortunately we were unable to land our targets" - "Money was there for reinvestment but David decided he was happy with the squad he had" - "With Diop and Cullen returning from isolation and Wilshire recovering from his injury trouble they will be like a new signing" - "We felt the fee being demanded exceeded our valuation of the player"
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French media reckon he will be a player in great demand next summer.
Fofana is City’s number one target in their pursuit of a new central defender, but their attempts to sign the wantaway teenager are being knocked back by the Ligue 1 club and their manager Claude Puel.
L’Equipe report that the latest offer, submitted on Monday night, is City’s third to Saint-Etienne, with previous bids going in at €25m (£23m) and €28.5m (£26.2m)
It appears even the "top" clubs like to try it on a bit. Tarkowski wouldn't have much of a sell on value. Rugani would be a loan deal whilst Fofana rips up the Premier League and we sell him for a massive profit to a Champions League team in a few years. It's a no brainer isn't it?
Chelsea will sell defender Antonio Rudiger to raise funds to sign West Ham's Declan Rice, according to the Daily Express.
Sky Sports News reported yesterday that Rudiger is considering his future after being left out of the squad for Sunday’s defeat at Liverpool.
Rudiger wants to play regular football to secure his place in Germany’s squad for next summer’s European Championships. If Chelsea do allow him to leave, it is thought they would prefer he didn’t go to a Premier League rival. Rudiger’s contract is up in the summer of 2022
To get the best out of Havertz and/or Mount, they will have to play 4231 with one of those 2 in the #10 position
So if you assume at least one of those two will play down the middle (maybe both?), that leaves Rice up against Kante, Jorginho, Kovacic, Loftus-Cheek and Barkley for 1 or 2 spots
Or he could play as a CB in a back 2, which Rice hasn't done since he was in the youth team, and even then he's up against Silva, Zuma, Rudiger, Tomori and Cristensen
Also I don't believe that Rice is asking for a transfer
The fact Prem clubs give such lucrative contracts, potential foreign buyers can never match them so the clubs are having to still pay a proportion of their wages, similarly to how we got rid of Roberto
Obviously they are on another planet than us, but you see Barcelona letting players (good ones) go for a couple million here or there, but apparently they have managed to trim their wage bill by £35mil per year
The Express says that Rice will tell the club he wants to go to Chelsea but their source is "transfer expert Fabrizio Romano" who has been wrong in the past.
I'd be surprised if Rice wanted to leave knowing the situation he could be leaving us in at this point in the window. It'd be so remarkably stupid on our part to sell him at this point, when
happen. If Rice were to get a serious injury we would be in a right mess, where
as if we get say £75,000 for him, we could get three decent players that we need,
and if one of them gets injured,like Rice, we still have two decent players.
On paper, I don't disagree. The idea of selling your top asset for as much as possible to rebuild the squad is a sound one, and something that clubs like Leicester, Ajax, Dortmund and others have made a real success of over the past however many years.
However, a lot of clubs muck it up by bringing in too much dross instead of the quality they need. No part of me trusts David Sullivan with that money, and I truly believe it would be another Rio Ferdinand situation, where we replace genuine quality with garbage like Titi Camara and Rigobert Song.
At the moment there's very little indication that we're going to be anything more than a mid-table club for the foreseeable future so it shouldn't be a surprise if Rice decided that he needed to leave to advance his career.
Sad but that seems to be the situation.
If this was really happening, they would've sold him early on or planned purchases ahead of his sale. The money will be completely wasted and/or can't be used until January.
Where are these decent players we can pick up for £25M a piece? And if we haven’t picked up one this window, what makes you think we’ll be able to get three?
Sale of Rice:-
- "The player wanted to move and we respected that wish"
- "It was in the best interests of the team to sell and reinvest the money into player acquisitions"
- "Chelsea's offer was too good to refuse"
- "David Moyes had indicated he would give his blessing to sanction the deal"
Followed by:-
- "Unfortunately we were unable to land our targets"
- "Money was there for reinvestment but David decided he was happy with the squad he had"
- "With Diop and Cullen returning from isolation and Wilshire recovering from his injury trouble they will be like a new signing"
- "We felt the fee being demanded exceeded our valuation of the player"
"We really tried but just couldn't get it over the line"