The Next Transfer Window

Lukerz

West Brom are closing in on the signing of West Ham target Cedric Kipre (Wigan Athletic) - Sky Sources.

Lukerz

Crystal Palace will finalise then transfer of Ebere Eze in the next 24 hours. He is undergoing the second part of his medical, currently - Sky Sources.

Fortuneseeker

30 comments today & none relating to any possible signings for us. Free agents joining other clubs, I could go on, & I probably will as the transfer window shows no sign of bringing any new players.

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

Lukerz said:

West Brom are closing in on the signing of West Ham target Cedric Kipre (Wigan Athletic) - Sky Sources.

Like Robinson, cant be too disappointed as I hadn't a clue who he was when we were linked to him

IronHerb

Lukerz said:

Apparently Chelsea are prepared to sell N’Golo Kante to fund a bid for Declan Rice (Football Insider, Exclusive).

Surely not?

They won't get £75m for Kante.

OutcastLondoner

Apart from a left back, I'm not really sure I mind. I really just want to see our players get better and deliver what they're capable of. I'm a bit tired of being excited by signings and then it not working so deciding a season or two later that we need to sell them and do the whole thing again. The transfer market is really quite boring.

claretandbluesky

I will accept contractual benevolence to a player when I first hear of a player saying 'as I got injured one year into my five year contract I don't think it's fair that I keep taking my wages'. The benefit of a contract should apply in both directions, you get injured you get paid, you get an offer from a bigger club and the current club don't want to sell then you get on with it, they want value for taking that chance on giving you that contract.

Yeoldhammer

We need to get a LB back in fast though, otherwise we will have a LB with no pre-season time to have played with the rest of the team. Even in these Covid times not signing a new LB as absolute priority is a shocker.

OldCastleSwift

Agreed Yeold. If we wait, as I suspect we will, until the last few days of the window, there's four games for Cresswell to be rinsed by the likes of Saint-Maximin and Traore.

It's been evident for a while now that opposition teams target our left flank, and it's an area that needed obvious strengthening. I really hoped it would be something the club would address quickly.

MrsGrey

claretandbluesky said:

I will accept contractual benevolence to a player when I first hear of a player saying 'as I got injured one year into my five year contract I don't think it's fair that I keep taking my wages'. The benefit of a contract should apply in both directions, you get injured you get paid, you get an offer from a bigger club and the current club don't want to sell then you get on with it, they want value for taking that chance on giving you that contract.

Not exactly the same circs, but didn't Zaba do the decent thing by not agreeing a contract extension to the end of extended season?

And Ginge with who he signed for after us?

Re your specific point,is it really right to expect a player who gets injured not to take their wages? I don't expect that. Isn't that honouring the contract by the club - we sign you we pay you, unless it's a pay as you play.

Lukerz

Yeoldhammer said:

We need to get a LB back in fast though, otherwise we will have a LB with no pre-season time to have played with the rest of the team. Even in these Covid times not signing a new LB as absolute priority is a shocker.

Part of me is starting to feel like Moyes is happy with Cresswell...

IronHerb

According to the BBC website there have been 22 transfers/loans in the EPL so far this window, this is where an EPL team has bought/loaned the player.
So not a lot happening anywhere up to this time.

Yeoldhammer

Lukerz said:

Yeoldhammer said:

We need to get a LB back in fast though, otherwise we will have a LB with no pre-season time to have played with the rest of the team. Even in these Covid times not signing a new LB as absolute priority is a shocker.

Part of me is starting to feel like Moyes is happy with Cresswell...

more fool him if he does believe that that LB position has cost us a lot.

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

I don't like it personally, but I can't really begrudge players who get injured and still get paid

Football is an intense sport and injuries are a big risk, but its a risk the players have to their health so the financial risk should be on the club

Would be extremely harsh that if a player who has just broken his leg during a game for said club trying to win them points doesn't get paid, because he was the one putting his body on the line in the first place and should be compensated

Now you get issues with Wilshere, whereby his injuries always happen behind closed doors then the lines get blurred.....

In regard to Wolves, think they've had a shocker. Don't think they owe Doherty anything, so this is just how they value him and they have grossly undervalued him

IronHerb

Thing with Wilshere is that it was our decision to sign him even with his history, so can't blame him for that.

Hamstew

As long as Palace get relegated next season all is good with me.

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

IronHerb said:

Thing with Wilshere is that it was our decision to sign him even with his history, so can't blame him for that.

I do actually agree, but on face value you look at it he has received £8/9mil in wages in two years (plus any signing on fee) and has played less than 600 minutes of Premier league football due to injuries that, to the best of my knowledge, have not been picked up on the pitch during a game

Not saying it's his fault, it is 100% on the club for doing such a ludicrous deal ,but is a bit frustrating to know the above

OldCastleSwift

Lukerz said:

Yeoldhammer said:

We need to get a LB back in fast though, otherwise we will have a LB with no pre-season time to have played with the rest of the team. Even in these Covid times not signing a new LB as absolute priority is a shocker.

Part of me is starting to feel like Moyes is happy with Cresswell...

Or accepted that there is literally no money in the pot. I do remember reading somewhere (probably Ex) that the board would find money for the defence without selling first because that was the priority.

Not looking that way now though.

claretandbluesky

I do agree that players injured should get paid and that clubs should most certainly honour contracts. I just feel that there should be no issue with any player honouring their part of the contract. This the club owe him a move or I want to leave because of a good offer and the numerous ways players get a move against the clubs wishes. Transfers of under contract players should always follow the same route in that a club contacts the players club to ask if they would be interested in selling, if the club say no then that's it. Agents should negotiate the personal terms of the move agreed by the clubs on the players behalf rather than engineer the move itself.

claretandbluesky

I will be fascinated if Messi comes to the PL and a club break the bank for him. He is 33 and the Premier league is very physical so he may not have the impact many assume he will. I hope he comes and the sales of shirts will go through the roof but on the pitch he may not be the player he was five years ago regard total impact on the match.

OutcastLondoner

claretandbluesky said:

I will be fascinated if Messi comes to the PL and a club break the bank for him. He is 33 and the Premier league is very physical so he may not have the impact many assume he will. I hope he comes and the sales of shirts will go through the roof but on the pitch he may not be the player he was five years ago regard total impact on the match.

I really hope the Football League fix the cup draw to get him a Wednesday night away fixture against Stoke.

Ravel49

OutcastLondoner said:

claretandbluesky said:

I will be fascinated if Messi comes to the PL and a club break the bank for him. He is 33 and the Premier league is very physical so he may not have the impact many assume he will. I hope he comes and the sales of shirts will go through the roof but on the pitch he may not be the player he was five years ago regard total impact on the match.

I really hope the Football League fix the cup draw to get him a Wednesday night away fixture against Stoke.

Best. Post. Ever.

buffybegood

claretandbluesky said:

I do agree that players injured should get paid and that clubs should most certainly honour contracts. I just feel that there should be no issue with any player honouring their part of the contract. This the club owe him a move or I want to leave because of a good offer and the numerous ways players get a move against the clubs wishes. Transfers of under contract players should always follow the same route in that a club contacts the players club to ask if they would be interested in selling, if the club say no then that's it. Agents should negotiate the personal terms of the move agreed by the clubs on the players behalf rather than engineer the move itself.

The balance of power has shifted way too far in favour of the player now. Unless you're a Man City and can afford to let a star player rot in the reserves, if a player wants to leave there's very little a club can do to stop it. Look at Payet. Look at Arnie. If they want to go, regardless of the length of contract remaining, then they go because the alternative is to have an expensive, disinterested, unsettling influence around the club. And agents make matters even worse, as they make most money when a player changes club, so there's an incentive to make out the grass in greener and encourage players to engineer moves.

IronHerb

Then it's simple. 1 year contracts all round.

Lukerz

The Guardian reporting that Matt Doherty is joining Spurs for an initial £12m!

Lukerz

If you think what our best 11 currently is & the amount spent...

Fabianski (£7m)
Johnson - Diop (£23m) - Ogbonna (8m) - Cresswell (£5m)
Rice - Soucek (£15m)
Bowen (£24m) - Fornals (£24m) - Antonio (£7m)
Haller (£45m)

Randolph (£5m), Balbuena (£4m), Noble, Lanzini (£10m), Anderson (£35m), Yarmolenko (£17m), Diang

£228m spent there, roughly, by G&S.

EXETERHAMMER

claretandbluesky said:

I will be fascinated if Messi comes to the PL and a club break the bank for him. He is 33 and the Premier league is very physical so he may not have the impact many assume he will. I hope he comes and the sales of shirts will go through the roof but on the pitch he may not be the player he was five years ago regard total impact on the match.

I am sure he will be staying at Barca

Hamstew

I wonder how many of those players we still owe money for.

Expat_Hammer

Lukerz said:

Apparently Chelsea are prepared to sell N’Golo Kante to fund a bid for Declan Rice (Football Insider, Exclusive).

Surely not?

Again ........................

OldCastleSwift

OldCastleSwift said:

Just remembered the third kit is launched on Friday.

Last season we announced Haller via the third kit release video.

#welcomeEze

Third kit is officially out.

Modelled not by a new signing, obvs, but by some young people who look like they refer to each other as 'fam'