The relegation battle - get out of my league!
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I don't support West Ham in the expectation of success.
I don't support West Ham in the expectation of progressive improvement.
I don't support West Ham because I feel entitled to flowing football, or a major say in how the club is run.
I support West Ham because I can't help it.
If I could help it, I would stop, and remove one of the very few sources of angst and frustration from my generally remarkably contented existence.
if people can walk away from the club because they've got the hump with the owners/manager/colour scheme/lack of traditional food vendors in the vicinity of the stadium/other... good for them.
I'm not there yet, and don't suppose I ever will be.
Let’s meet up in 97 years and discuss...
a ) the daves invest in a manager who is a significant step up and back him to the tune of £100m
Or
b ) they sell up and give someone else a go who has far deeper pockets
Problem with a ) is I don’t believe they have the financial muscle - plus there are no guarantees of an outcome as is proven by the Everton case.
;weep
We're not Sunderland who have plummeted two tiers in two seasons
We're not Leyton Orient who went from a penalty kick away from the Championship to the Conference in three seasons
We're not Leeds who went from losing a 2001 Champions League semi against Valencia to losing the 2008 League 1 playoff final to Doncaster Rovers and haven't played in the Premier League for 14 seasons
Being a Hammer isn't so bad
I have never forgotten the very first big screen at Upton Park, it looked like the front window at Rediffusion where someone had stacked 12 tellies together to make a cube.
And don,t get me started on the Hammerettes........ ;wink
I think we can all agree we expect to lose to Man City, and it could be a scary result. They had nothing to play for last weekend and hammered Swansea 5-0.
So with no points and a possible battering to our GD again, it means that a victory for Saints and we are in massive trouble. We all expect Stoke to not win at Anfield and WBA are gone. Swansea have Chelsea, but winnable games after that. Huddersfield have Everton, but losable games to follow.
I think the general feel is that we are quite calm at the moment, but I really feel we are in massive trouble following our failure to beat Stoke. Imagine had Carroll not scored in the last minute either? Personally I think we're relying on Huddersfield losing their remaining four games to stay up. Of course, victory at Leicester would do the job. But I can see us taking only 2 points max from our remaining four. Would 37 be enough? I can also see us losing the next three and really don't want a final day decider against Sam.
But Saints vs Bournemouth is massive for us. I think if Saints fail to win, it leaves them 5/6 points behind with 3 to go (Everton away, Swansea home, Man City home). I don't see them taking 5/6 points from that. They've won twice in the league since October. But I'd say if you are in the relegation battle, and you have any fixtures against either Watford or Bournemouth, you are laughing, because I think they are the perfect two sides to play.
Can Soton get 8 from 12? Shouldn't think so.
36 will probably do it.
At the moment, they just need 2 wins to catch us.
With an extra point, they'd need 2 wins and a draw.
35 might well do it, given that they finish against Citeh.
I'm not comfortable at all with how things are. I honestly think we'll lose the next three, and I hate the thought of going into the Everton game needing something, particularly as Rooney owns us.
It actually feels like we're under more pressure than Southamptom. It's like they have nothing to lose given they're already in the drop zone, so they have to go all out against Bournemouth.
We, on the other hand, know that we can probably scrape by with a couple of draws, so may be looking to play not to lose rather than going for the win in our remaining games.
Given how fresh the memory of being relegated with 42 points is, I'm certainly not comfortable that 35 will be enough.
I feel genuinely fearful of our status.
Many a team has been awful all season and then had a mini run of 3/4 games at the end and stayed up.
I just have this fear with Southampton because, on paper, they are a reasonable side. Stoke I am not worried about. Just Saints, and Swansea have a reasonable run of games too. So I worry it’s down to us to secure our status (as it should be), but I don’t trust us to do it.
I actually think it will be harder to beat Everton on the last day if we are still among it. Everton will be well up for it because of Moyes, Allardyce would love it and our players could be very nervous. Let's hope it doesn't come to it.
Also now that the Saints are out of the cup, the players will be a lot more focused. I always think players don't want to get suspended/injured before a trip to Wembley. I can see their league performances being vastly improved.
Dont expect anything from the next 3, and we are going to survive based on others being worse
Not ideal
Wonder what that's like
It's that happy cheery feeling you get before a match, which lasts until about 2 minutes after kick off for the most part...
We just have to be.
You have views of the current state of affairs that are not shared by others, of which I am one.
It is not incumbent upon me, or anyone, to justify their disagreement with you.
The fact that people choose not to respond how you demand of them in no way invalidates their opinions.
I have no interest in whether or not you (or anyone) like or dislike the board/manager/colour of the beer trays etc.
If I see a post that appears to make a factual claim, and no source is offered, it seems reasonable to ask for a source.
If I disagree with interpretations of fact, I don't see why i shouldn't say so.
Isn't that exchanging views?
I lack neither the confidence nor the ability to write a critique, or offer rebuttals.
What I do lack is the necessary faff, since I can't see the point of using my time in such a way.
That is to say, people are free to make any points they like.
Others are free to challenge those views.
Should the original poster choose not to engage further, then we don't allow others to continue to prompt them to respond further.
So, users (within site rules) are free to say what they think, but can have no expectation of others that they will respond at all, or in a way that suits.
It's a discussion forum.
You made a comment, I replied.
How can that be 'vicarious'? Hence 'continue'.
Asking once (politely), in case someone has missed it is fine.