Summer 2017 Transfer Speculation

grey_til_I_dye

MIA

Ah the old Kevin Keegan philosophy ;wink.

You left out what I think is the most telling stat:

Last season we scored 47 and we were 11th in goals scored (= table position) but 6th worst in goals against (64)

The year before we were 5th with goals scored (65 - finished 7th) and 10th in GA (51)

14-15 We were 13th in GF (44 - finished 12th) 14th in GA (47)

We let in far more goals than we had in previous seasons.

You can look up the stats here: https://www.whoscored.com/Teams/29/Fixtures/England-West-Ham

grey_til_I_dye

Paper talk this morning is that the Hart deal is nearly done, with Citeh paying half his wages, and a permanent option at the end of the year, possibly for £10m.

IronHerb

That'll be nice.

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

£10 million is a great price.

grey_til_I_dye

IF that were the deal, AND he signed at the end of the season, then I'd definitely say that was a result.

Adam

My guess (with no real substance to it) is that the loan fee will probably be significant if the selling price is only £10m. Somewhere between £5m-£10m?

And I wonder what happens to his wages if we do buy Hart. Would he take a potential pay cut of 50% (assuming City are paying half of his wages this season)?

To be clear, I'm not saying I don't want Hart!

MrsGrey

Those terms, and if he commits to staying, would go a long way to assuage my worries.

Bazshuayi

Is Assuage our new striker ;puzzled

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

Even if we don't keep Hart, whoever we have lost out of Randy and Adrian would not be difficult to replace next summer.

They're pretty average goalkeepers IMO.

OldCastleSwift

;hmm

DG has this morning re-tweeted an article that says Bilic believes signings are 'pretty close'.

A subtle hint as to what today may bring...?

IronHerb

Don't go to bed...... ;lol

IronHerb

I would 'assume' that the contract being discussed would cover this seasons wages, next seasons wages should we retain him, the loan fee and the final transfer fee.
Hart has 2 years left on his contract so the purchase price would reflect the 1 year remaining. I also believe that City won't be punitive with Hart reflecting the service he has given them and the fact they are getting rid of him.
Once he signs (?) he would be ours to decide upon his immediate future and also I don't see £100k being an issue.

Get it done.

ASLEFshrugged

Bazshuayi said:

Is Assuage our new striker ;puzzled

Isn't Assuage the bloke from WikiLeaks?

Yeoldhammer

Striker please

Ace of Clubs

If we sign Hart on loan for a year and he proves he's worth the wages he wants then sign him, if he does not, then don't sign him. To me it's that simple but then many people think I'm simple anyway.

mike

Never mind about hart we need STRIKERS.

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

Improve the biggest problem first, which is defence and defensive organisation.

Then look for strikers.

Owners doing an excellent job so far.

IronHerb

Or do both simultaneously....

grey_til_I_dye

Which they appear to be doing...

baracks_a_hammer

I'm sure they are. They need to be very careful which striker(s) they sign. Too many they have signed have not worked out for one reason or another

TwistandShout

grey_til_I_dye said:

Paper talk this morning is that the Hart deal is nearly done, with Citeh paying half his wages, and a permanent option at the end of the year, possibly for £10m.

That is a great deal for us ;ok

TwistandShout

Jorderz_Slaven_A_Good_Time said:

Owners doing an excellent job so far.

By signing 1 player on a free transfer?
(Hart not done yet)

Still no strikers signed.

Excellent job so far?

;hmm

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

If Hart is as done as we're hearing, then yes, excellent job ;ok

Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes

IronHerb said:

Or do both simultaneously....

Of course they're trying to do this, but I'm happier they've got our biggest issue sorted before signing strikers to keep certain sections of fans happy.

We could have Ronaldo up front but if our defensive organisation is as shambolic as it was last season it won't make much difference.

grey_til_I_dye

Twist

It sounds like an excellent deal, but there is no way to know if that IS the deal.

IronHerb

baracks_a_hammer said:

I'm sure they are. They need to be very careful which striker(s) they sign. Too many they have signed have not worked out for one reason or another

But you don't know that until you've signed them....

imagelost

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.mcfcwatch.com/2017/07/15/joe-hart-passes-west-ham-medical-with-transfer-announcement-imminent/amp/
2hours ago

WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years

I'm pretty happy with the Hart deal if it is indeed 50% wages and a loan deal with the option to buy

What I am a bit annoyed at is the insistence on buying players ONLY for right now

I mean I understand.....but you can argue that our 3 most successful signings last year were Masuaka (22), Fernandes (20) and Fletcher (20) as well as signing the highly rated Quina and Martinez

Think we need to find the right balance between first teamers and exciting prospects as younger players if anything present the possibility of profit from sales in the future

MrsGrey

Champo - I suppose they think that we are well stocked with 'prospects' after the last summer transfer window? I do concur with them, actually, that our priority now HAS to be to sign players who will improve the first XI.

DJ Hammer

Jorderz_Slaven_A_Good_Time said:

IronHerb said:

Or do both simultaneously....

Of course they're trying to do this, but I'm happier they've got our biggest issue sorted before signing strikers to keep certain sections of fans happy.

We could have Ronaldo up front but if our defensive organisation is as shambolic as it was last season it won't make much difference.

We could get Ronaldo!


;puzzled