Summer 2017 Transfer Speculation

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  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Florin

    The problem is that our budget is very limited. You can't therefore prioritise back up players over first team players. One of the reasons certain players would have been released would have been to generate funds and take wages off the payroll to accommodate new first choice first teamers.
  • FlorinRaducliousFlorinRaduclious
    baracks - Yes, I appreciate that, plus the players themselves may not have wanted to stay if they are 'back ups' - from the rumours this is a main reason for Nordt leaving, the lad was previously used to, and wanted to be a first 11 regular. I just think it's a shame as they could have been good for us. However as we seem to only want 2/3 players I think we have the budget (hopefully) for the transfers from income especially the new TV deal, and for their wages the savings made from a few leaving (Calleri, Tore, Arbeloa) and our extra income. Obviously if more than 3 are needed I can see why savings need to be made. Time will tell, hopefully it'll all work out ;ok
  • McHammerMcHammer
    Huttonhammer said:

    No longer a selling club? after last season there are not many players sides would be queuing up for.
    Also renewing contracts at West Ham is not going to motivate our players the only time we have looked good over the last few years was when Payet signed. He made players play and look good. As soon as he went players like Noble went back to what they were like before.
    Quality signings are needed to improve , renewing contracts is just normal business.

    Yes I think my point stands. We don't sell our best players we give them new deals. Payet was one of our best players but gave us no choice. We didn't sell him just for the money.
  • McHammerMcHammer

    BREAKING NEWS

    Brentford star Jota will not play in their friendly against Aldershot tonight with a bid expected imminently from a Premier League club, Sky Sports News HQ understands.

    The Spaniard held a meeting with head coach Dean Smith and Bees officials on Thursday in which it was collectively agreed he should not take part in the game.

    Sky sources understand Huddersfield, Everton, West Ham and Newcastle have all shown interest in the 25-year-old - and he would be available for around £8m.

  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    Transfer News = Bjork!
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    According to the newspaper that Gideon is editor for, Everton are about to sign an 18 year old winger from qpr for £4m. If he signs I wouldn't be surprised if he saw some first team action in his first season given that he will be playing for koeman
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    Like lookman who got 290 mins of action costing £10mil
  • LukerzLukerz
    Sky say Andre Gray is now at the top of our striker shortlist.
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    Thing is Gray may not be a huge upgrade over Sakho and Carroll but he's gonna be there for 30+ games a season

    It's not the goalscoring I had a problem with last year (although it was a problem) it was how little our strikers influenced the game. Zaza and Calleri just didn't "lead the attack" and in Gray I think we have a guy who can integrate with the rest of the squad and be a solid 6/7 out of 10 week in week out and with him being a constant every week we won't have our momentum broken like every time Carroll starts scoring

    I also don't think he's the only striker that we will get but with him we are getting a big upgrade over Zaza and Calleri which is a start.....plus he brings pace and athleticism that this squad lacks

    £12/15 mil for a 26 year old British striker who has sacred goals in the premier league and championship is a good move in my eyes
  • McHammerMcHammer
    Devine intervention is what we need! #sacred goals
  • LukerzLukerz
    Few murmurings of Arnautovic, from supposed ITK's of other forums.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Luke dissing the opposition ;lol
  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    Slaven_A_Laugh_Lukerz said:

    Sky say Andre Gray is now at the top of our striker shortlist.

    If its a 'short' list, then surely Ryan Fraser would be on our list (Always makes me laugh when the men in blazers refer to him as scrappy doo ;lol ) ;run
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited July 2017
    Shaquiri, too ;ok
  • VorselaarhammerVorselaarhammer
    Slaven_A_Laugh_Lukerz said:

    Few murmurings of Arnautovic, from supposed ITK's of other forums.

    He has an X factor...
  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    edited July 2017
    and if we sign him I can change my fantasy team name to a player thats actually ours ;thumbsup

    # win/win
  • Moore_than_a_nickMoore_than_a_nick
    edited July 2017
    Apparently Hernandez wants £140k per week: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/javier-hernandez-demanding-140000-week-10756597

    At £13m, perhaps we could afford the wages, but not good for the morale of the other squad members.

    We might even be able to afford Gray, Hernandez and a £25mn striker like all the ones we're apparently bidding for (e.g. Muriel).
  • Moore_than_a_nickMoore_than_a_nick
    Interesting story about Feghouli, allegedly wanting WHU to give him the remaining two thirds of his EUR4.5mn signing-on fee, which was being paid EUR1.5mn per year, before signing for Galatasaray: http://sportwitness.co.uk/signing-fees-holding-back-west-ham-deal-despite-transfer-fee-agreed/
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    Think £140k is way too much, it's more than we were paying Payet and that was still a contract based of about £85k with bonuses

    Think he'd take £100k which imo won't damage the morale as he is the biggest name at the club (should he sign) who's won the premier league and played in the champions league before

    Only the clubs like United, city and Chelsea can compromise on a wage structure as seen by Tottenham,Liveprool answer arsenal who although are financially very powerful (to the rest of the league) their top earners don't make 'ridiculous money'
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    Chelsea match man Utd 75 million offer for lukaku
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    I'd give him the £140k a week, to be honest. £13m is relatively cheap nowadays, and given that he'd be our most decorated player, I don't think morale would be affected too much; in fact, the other players would probably welcome someone of that quality.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited July 2017
    OCS, maybe they would welcome that quality, but looking back to the Payet situation...

    (not knowing how much of what was reported is true) there is the suggestion that while the other players recognised his quality, the constant bigging him up in the meeja and paying him more wages, incentives and bonuses led to an unsettled dressing room.

    Obviously, there's a personality element to that as well. Nor all 'highest paid' players will be divas, or cause rifts.

    I don't know what I'm saying really - just mulling - I'd want to think long and hard before paying 1 player shedloads more than anybody else. Yes, a player with trophies and medals might be worth it .. but it's a team game. Is he going to put in his own crosses, and go in goal too?

    ;hmm
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    edited July 2017
    At the end of the day you have to remain professional

    Natural ability doesn't always correspond to high wages. Reputation, past experiences, age, availability all come into account on how much wages players are paid

    Sure some players may feel underpaid (like footballers are underpaid......) but they have to remain professional and most of these guys do you'd imagine

    I don't think it was Payets pay that aggravated them but the special treatment he got e.g. missing training etc without consequence
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    Find it amazing how many on social media (mainly twitter) think that Sully has pulled some kind of elaborate stunt in pinning the "deal off" on Slav to deflect criticism.

    While I agree that it shouldn't of come out, there is no way that SB would sign up for that or stand there and take it imo

    I'm glad that SB has the final say, perhaps once he knew the details of the deal and how much it may affect our transfer budget, he didn't think it was worth it, he did similar when he said no to end the Hogan interest.



  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    edited July 2017
    OldCastleSwift said:

    I'd give him the £140k a week, to be honest. £13m is relatively cheap nowadays, and given that he'd be our most decorated player, I don't think morale would be affected too much; in fact, the other players would probably welcome someone of that quality.

    Hernandez might have won two Premier League titles with Man U but he wasn't a first team regular, excluding the times when he was injured or otherwise unavailable he started 85 games out of a total of 210 and spent more time on the bench than on the pitch. He wasn't a first team regular at Real Madrid either, just 12 starts out of a possible 52 and he won a World Club Championship medal sitting on the bench.

    He's only been a first team regular since he joined Bayer Leverkusen, his first season was excellent, 17 goals in 28 league appearances, fourth top scorer in the Bundesliga and Bayer finished 3rd. This season he only managed 11 goals in 26 and while he was still top scorer at Bayer they finished 12th making this the first season since 2009/10 when they didn't qualify for Europe

    £13m is peanuts these days but he's going to have to prove he's worth £140k pw,
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    I would only take him if the 140k was structured like payets deal 65 basic then appearance say 25 and rest made up with goals scored assist league position etc . If was flat 140k I think it could easily disrupt the dressing room especially if he is not doing the business. A report from Germany suggests he is not a popular player in the dressing room at bayer . Team morale is v important look what happened when. Payet finally left results picked up . Reports we have bid for Muriel looked at him he is quick good dribbler decent finisher not great in the air but would definitely give us something different
  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    Pearces_Left_Foot said:

    Chelsea match man Utd 75 million offer for lukaku

    still hope for my handle then when Bats joins us ;thumbsup ;wahoo
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    edited July 2017
    PLF - apparently Hernandez made a similar demand when LA Galaxy where after him so probably he wants £140k plus bonuses.

    Last season he scored on 1 October and then didn't score again until 28 January, 11 League games (plus 4 CL and a cup game) without a goal

    The more I read the less I want him here.........
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    The gut feel seems to suggest he is a bit of a mercenary who may score a few and then want to be off pretty quickly - do we want someone like that?

    Perhaps a hard working, committed, focussed Andre gray might be better for our club right now?
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    Wolves have completed the £16mil signing of 20 year old Ruben Neves who is one of the goldenboys of Portuguese football......how has that happened ;nonono

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