January 2017 Transfer Speculation

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  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited January 2017
    TwistAndShout said:


    My opinion is the board are cheap

    Fair enough if that's your opinion.

    But it does seem rather to be ignoring the fact that we are 6th highest net spenders on transfers.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    thornburyiron said:

    It does seem a tad bizarre because we could easily have been spending £20M on Zaza or was it always our intention, regardless of his form, to not play him enough to trigger the clause. Maybe if we had had to buy Zaza we would have needed to sell Payet to pay for him.

    ;hmm It does make you wonder. I mean, if the Lacazatte bids were true, then we had £40m to spend. We spent £20m of that on Ayew and presumably the other £20m was being reserved for Zaza (had it worked out). So the fact that we didn't sign Zaza means we could afford Fonte and Snodgrass from that money, which in turn means the £25m from Payet is new money? ;hmm
  • HammerexHammerex
    edited January 2017
    Vorselaarhammer said:

    Slaven Bilic has been speaking at a press conference this morning and has opened up on West Ham's possible Deadline Day deals.

    Bilic on Scott Hogan:

    "We have really good strikers in our squad and that's why we won't have a Hogan deal. It's not a question of him."

    We only have one good striker, and that's A C WHEN he is fit.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited January 2017
    OCS
    Depends on how the various deals were structured. ;hmm

    As I said somewhere else, not buying Zaza doesn't necessarily mean Sully actually has a spare £20m in used notes stuffed under his mattress.

    It might have been one of those deals structured so that relatively little is paid up front, with the bulk of the money coming from future years' budgets. Plus some of these numbers being bandied about can be 'rising to' figures and might never be reached if certain conditions aren't met.

  • IronHerbIronHerb
    baracks_a_hammer said:

    Right now I'd take Sturridge on loan if the fallback option to the fragile pair was Calleri

    But I guess Liverpool wouldn't be interested in anything but a straight sale

    He's not 'fragile' then? ;hmm
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Totally, but the odds on three fragile players being unavailable are probably less ;lol

    Apparently talksport pundit Micky Quinn reckons the Dave's are trying to do a deal for him today
  • KuchinghammerKuchinghammer
    oh not Sulky Sturridge... we only just got shot of Pouting Payet! ;hmm
  • Ravel49Ravel49
    If you don't know then get to know..

    PL DEAL SHEET EXPLAINED

    As in the previous window, Premier League clubs can complete deals by 1am, thanks to the Deal Sheet.

    Clubs and players must do the following to get any last-minute deals over the line...
    •Form must be submitted to Premier League 9pm – 11pm;

    •It must be submitted by the clubs involved and signed by the player;

    •Info required includes total fee, add-ons and player signature confirming they have agreed personal terms

    •If Premier League receive Deal Sheet by 11pm, clubs have until 1am (midnight for international deals) to legally complete
  • Ravel49Ravel49
    BREAKING NEWS

    Aston Villa have agreed a fee in the region of £15m for Brentford striker Scott Hogan, according to Sky sources
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    Villa have agreed a deal with Brentford for Hogan and SSN stating that Bilic has said there'll be no signings at all today.

    Oh good.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Twist

    If Slav is saying what the board want him to, and it isn't true, he is lying.

    Simple.

    I don't think he is lying.

    I think he is the one who had the doubts about Hogan.

    I'm basing this on what he said, and on what Diddy Dee said.

    To suggest that Slav would go along with what he is told to keep his job safe is, imo, to suggest he has no backbone.

    I believe, and certainly hope, that if the DD's told him to do or say something he wasn't happy with, he would refuse, and walk if necessary.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Demba ba has joined besiktas on loan
  • VorselaarhammerVorselaarhammer
    edited January 2017
    ;hmm ;whome

    Trevor Sinclair
    Ex-Man City & West Ham winger
    I feel like we need a right-back and Ashley Young would be ideal. He’s been playing there for them, and could do a great job for West Ham.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Can you imagine after signing snodgrass if we signed Ashley young - who would be next, Tom Daley?? ;hmm
  • SwissironSwissiron
    ahem
    ;ccole
  • alderzalderz
    Is Trev talking about us or City though
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    Hang on, so on the one hand we have Bilic saying we have really good strikers at the club so don’t need Hogan, and on the other Sully saying that we were looking to bring in Demba Ba ;hmm

    Is it just me or is that completely contradictory? Either we need/want a striker or we don’t.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Not completely contradictory, if the sub-text of what Slav is saying is that he thinks Hogan's not very good.

    I think the message has always been 'we want players who can improve the 1st XI'.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    OCS

    Slav said:
    “We’re not looking for [any late deals]. We got Fonte who we really wanted, we got Snodgrass who we really wanted from day one, and we were maybe looking for a right-back. We couldn’t find someone who would improve our squad or first eleven and that’s why we didn’t get one. I’m very happy with the squad now.

    “For example Demba Ba; He’s a player who has proved himself in the Premier League and he’s a player who I managed at Besiktas.

    “I spoke to him on the phone a couple of weeks ago and the problem was that he got very badly injured and he told me he would be fit in March. That’s too late for us.
    Read more at http://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2017/january/31-january/bilic-im-happy-my-squad#m24ukPSXgqDiEdmv.99

    Which I take to mean, he thought if we got Ba that would be an improvement, and if we got Hogan, it wouldn't.

    So, we were on the lookout for a striker if we could find one Slav was happy would improve us.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    ;whistle
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    "He’s definitely a good player, he’s young and scoring goals in the Championship but it’s not a question of 'Is he good enough?'; it’s a question of what we have.

    We have Andy Carroll, Michail Antonio, Ashley Fletcher and Jonathan Calleri and plus players who can play second striker like Andre Ayew and Robert Snodgrass. We have to stay fit but that’s the reason behind my decision.”

    Don't agree Greys. The above suggests to me that he thinks we have enough with the players he's listed.

    The fact that we would have taken Ba doesn't really back that up, IMO
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    OCS

    Only, imo, because you are not reading the whole article.

    I would say, from Slav's point of view

    Ba = worth getting in considering what we already have
    Hogan = not worth getting in considering what we already have

    I don't see how they are contradictory.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    edited January 2017
    I think the daves and Slav want as good as a guarantee that any striker they sign would get goals in the Prem. That's why I guess they wouldn't have been interested in gabbiadini. To me the only options would have been

    Defoe (whose price, even if Sunderland relented would have put them off as he'd have no resale value)

    Ba (injured till march - yet still besiktas signed him on loan ;hmm )

    Sturridge (who Liverpool may only let go at the end of the season not now)
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    grey_til_I_dye said:



    Ba = worth getting in considering what we already have
    Hogan = not worth getting in considering what we already have

    I have read the whole article Grey, and if the above was true then maybe he shouldn't have said, "it’s not a question of 'Is he good enough?'; it’s a question of what we have."

    Maybe I'm the only one that see's that as a contradiction ;ok
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    how is BA worthgetting the guy broke his leg dont need more injured players
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Yeold

    Well, that's pretty much what Slav said.
  • alderzalderz
    OCS

    Tbh, I take Slav saying "it's not about if he's good enough" to be a polite way of saying that he doesn't think he's good enough. It doesn't really help anyone if Slav comes out and says "we looked at Hogan but I think he's rubbish".
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    I find it very hard to believe that there weren't approaches/enquiries made about Scott Hogan.

    So if he was already satisfied with what he had where Hogan was concerned what would have been the point of wasting Brentford fc's time?
  • alderzalderz
    That article that (I think) Grey posted earlier claimed there were no official bids for Hogan, and neither club have said that there was either (as far as I have seen).
  • brookingsironsbrookingsirons
    We had all summer to get a good quality RB and Striker there was talk about
    Hogan all of January on sky , I didn't expect us to sign a top striker in January because they are just not out there or available its a bad time to try and sign a player .

    But fully expect Sullivan to come up trumps in this next window and please learn from the past mistakes .
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