January 2017 Transfer Speculation

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  • TwistandShoutTwistandShout
    Just another excuse for them not to spend money.
  • VorselaarhammerVorselaarhammer
    http://talksport.com/football/west-ham-united-transfer-news-sullivan-reveals-latest-striker-move-speaking-talksport
  • KuchinghammerKuchinghammer
    Baracks: Defoe? the 20m+ Palace bloke? Hogan again? Demba Ba? It's a good question.

  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    Vorselaarhammer said:

    "We have really good strikers in our squad and that's why we won't have a Hogan deal. It's not a question of him."

    "We were maybe after a RB but we couldn't find someone who could improve our starting XI. That's why we haven't got one."

    Really good strikers ;hmm

    Carroll and Sakho are really good strikers, but both are made of glass and one didn't want to be here six months ago. Calleri and Ayew I have yet to be convinced by and Fletcher clearly isn't trusted. Antonio can do a job but as was said before, I don't want a striker that can just do a job.

    And as for the right back thing, I'm just staggered. Byram breaks again and then what? Nordtveit at right back? Arbeloa? Sorry Slav, but I just don't get the logic.
  • alderzalderz
    Twist - Did you see that article about us being the (I think) 6th highest net spenders since G&S came in?
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    TwistAndShout said:

    Just another excuse for them not to spend money.

    So Slav is a liar. Slav has no backbone, no self-esteem, and is happy to do and say whatever the DD's tell him to?

    That is the inevitable conclusion if you are right in what you think.

    Or, he's simply saying what he thinks, and you are reading it wrong.

  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    and Sakho when he recovers that's 6 players including Carroll to play upfront. Any decent player worth having will almost certainly not be moving in Jan as their clubs won't want to let them go I don't see a lot of players worth singing in Jan.
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    and we are currently on our best run of this season won 5 in 7 in the PL I think ;hmm
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    It's not a problem holding back in January for reasons Pearce's has cited. The problem comes when you make a real hash of the summer window too which for us always seems to be the case where strikers and rights backs are concerned.
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    Lets hope they get things right this summer and can start looking at players now to buy this summer
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    I don't know enough about Hogan to know if he's worth a go or not but my worry is the last quality striker we were able to bring in was Carroll. None of the so called top strikers in the summer were remotely interested in us and we were in Europe and I doubt much will change this summer.
    Finishing in the bottom half of the table , which is still a possibility, wouldn't make us attractive.
    My hope is that they've someone in mind for the summer, like but not necessarily Sturridge, and they're waiting for that.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Vorselaarhammer said:

    http://talksport.com/football/west-ham-united-transfer-news-sullivan-reveals-latest-striker-move-speaking-talksport

    I really do recommend people who are doubting the club at least give this a listen.
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    Friend who's a Brentford fan is furious about our behaviour on Hogan and have to say there's some truth. While there were other clubs involved, we were very public in our bidding. While the club might not have officially stated they wanted him, the mass of news reports stink of leaked information. http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/brentford-transfers-bilic-confirms-west-12531477

  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    I did listen to it but wondered why when they sat down and Bilic said no they didn't say "ok that's a no go" right at the very beginning as it seems as if they kept going in with bids virtually for the whole of January. If Bilic did say no from the outset why didn't they say so then.
    Surely they discussed targets at the start of the window not the end.
    It does seem a little that Callieri's fluke goal at Middlesbrough swayed Bilic as he wax young right up to the end of last wee.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    edited January 2017
    Outcast

    But is there any way to say where the leaks came from?

    What about Brentford doing it to drum up some competition and push up the price?

    Or his agent?

    Why would our club be the ones leaking it? What benefit is it to them?

    And the article says:

    NO bid was forthcoming, no fees had been agreed and there was minimal contact over the past three weeks
    Wouldn't that be a kind of hint that we weren't that keen?
  • Ravel49Ravel49
    iS tHe DeAdLiNe ElEvEn Pm?
  • brookingsironsbrookingsirons
    I must say I'm once again disappointed in our window but understand high values and availability of decent players is thin on the ground but we seem to talk about the same things every window no striker of quality no right back ..

    I hope we do some good business in the summer and hope the extra cash from payet is added to the budget but I would guess not , I heard Sullivan say on talk sport today they had spent 16m of the 25m from that payet deal ;doh

    so was we spending any money before we new payet wanted out ?
    they now seem to be using that line about payet money when that to me was extra cash coming in or have I missed something ?
  • TwistandShoutTwistandShout
    grey_til_I_dye said:

    TwistAndShout said:

    Just another excuse for them not to spend money.

    So Slav is a liar. Slav has no backbone, no self-esteem, and is happy to do and say whatever the DD's tell him to?

    That is the inevitable conclusion if you are right in what you think.

    Or, he's simply saying what he thinks, and you are reading it wrong.

    I think that he's saying what the board want him to say. Not because he's a liar or has no back bone but in the football world you have to be careful what you say as you can easily get the sack.
    If he comes out to the media and says 'i want this player, this player, this player, but the owners don't want to spend'. Who gets the sack?
    My opinion is the board are cheap
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    It does seem a tad bizarre because we could easily have been spending £20M on Zaza or was it always our intention, regardless of his form, to not play him enough to trigger the clause. Maybe if we had had to buy Zaza we would have needed to sell Payet to pay for him.
  • brookingsironsbrookingsirons
    is it not the case we seem to leak out a story every window and always get let down come the close of play ... keeps us fans happy for a while very clever from our owners but very frustrating for the fans .
  • brookingsironsbrookingsirons
    so we spent 16m on 2 players with a combined age of 62 ;lol
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Win lose or draw I hope we manage to score in our next couple of games or we may just start to look a tad foolish for saying our strike force is sufficient. In about 30 games this season our strikers have hardly hit the net. Carroll and Antonio are the only ones to have scored more than one
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Right now I'd take Sturridge on loan if the fallback option to the fragile pair was Calleri

    But I guess Liverpool wouldn't be interested in anything but a straight sale
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    grey_til_I_dye said:

    Outcast

    But is there any way to say where the leaks came from?

    What about Brentford doing it to drum up some competition and push up the price?

    Or his agent?

    Why would our club be the ones leaking it? What benefit is it to them?

    And the article says:


    NO bid was forthcoming, no fees had been agreed and there was minimal contact over the past three weeks
    Wouldn't that be a kind of hint that we weren't that keen?

    The potential benefit would be to unsettle him and possibly to eventually get a reduced deal when they cave because they have an unsettled player.

    I'm sure they did also leak some but this game has gone on throughout the whole window and a lot of it has clearly come from us because of what the information is - like the rumours of Bilic being the one who will decide. Didn't the Insider hint at Hogan before it was scrapped? If we were going to say we don't want him, why not earlier? It's not like we've brought in another striker - our available options have not changed.
  • FlorinRaducliousFlorinRaduclious
    Beautiful picture someone (AdamTungatt { @PulseHRAdam }) tweeted and sent into BBC deadline day live:
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3fgWZgWQAEIQWU.jpg
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    edited January 2017
    Brookings, who cares how old they are if they improve the first XI.....

    Slaven, yes Slaven not the board, is happy with the squad at the momeny and that's all that matter

    We are competing on ONE front for the remainder of the season, yes one front and at the very best is 7th place which could get us Europa league football but do we really want it?

    Randy
    Byram Reid Fonte Cressy
    Noble Obiang
    Antonio Lanzini Snodgrass
    Carroll

    With Kouyate, Collins, Adrian, Ayew, Feghouli, Calleri, Arbeloa, Nordtveit and Fernandes not even involved plus Sakho and Masuaka to return

    If we hash out in the summer then this window could come back to bite us but can't we wait untill the summer before we write it off?
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited January 2017
    TwistAndShout said:


    My opinion is the board are cheap

    Fair enough if that's your opinion.

    But it does seem rather to be ignoring the fact that we are 6th highest net spenders on transfers.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    thornburyiron said:

    It does seem a tad bizarre because we could easily have been spending £20M on Zaza or was it always our intention, regardless of his form, to not play him enough to trigger the clause. Maybe if we had had to buy Zaza we would have needed to sell Payet to pay for him.

    ;hmm It does make you wonder. I mean, if the Lacazatte bids were true, then we had £40m to spend. We spent £20m of that on Ayew and presumably the other £20m was being reserved for Zaza (had it worked out). So the fact that we didn't sign Zaza means we could afford Fonte and Snodgrass from that money, which in turn means the £25m from Payet is new money? ;hmm
  • HammerexHammerex
    edited January 2017
    Vorselaarhammer said:

    Slaven Bilic has been speaking at a press conference this morning and has opened up on West Ham's possible Deadline Day deals.

    Bilic on Scott Hogan:

    "We have really good strikers in our squad and that's why we won't have a Hogan deal. It's not a question of him."

    We only have one good striker, and that's A C WHEN he is fit.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited January 2017
    OCS
    Depends on how the various deals were structured. ;hmm

    As I said somewhere else, not buying Zaza doesn't necessarily mean Sully actually has a spare £20m in used notes stuffed under his mattress.

    It might have been one of those deals structured so that relatively little is paid up front, with the bulk of the money coming from future years' budgets. Plus some of these numbers being bandied about can be 'rising to' figures and might never be reached if certain conditions aren't met.

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