AFC Wimbledon (A), 7:45pm Sat 26th January

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  • Cuz1Cuz1
    As I’ve said Hutton it imo isn’t the line up it’s yhe performance surely that team ability wise is far superior to afc Wimbledon, it’s the attitude desire that comes into question
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    edited January 2019
    Pellegrini not pulling any punches, but it's the resting of the players that I don't agree with and that's on him.

    We've had three chances to get 7th place this season and each time we've blown it. Such is our inconsistency that even if we beat Wolves you just know that we'll get turned over by Liverpool so we'll basically be treading water for the rest of the season and will end up 10th or 11th.

    The cup was our season, IMO, and Pellegrini could have done more to give us a chance of progressing.

    That said, I'm not excusing the players. Snodgrass, Anderson and Fredericks aside, the rest were an absolute disgrace.
  • claretandblueskyclaretandbluesky
    edited January 2019
    Disappointed that Pelle took no responsibility in those quotes. Whilst it's true those picked did under perform HE was guilty of not prioritising our matches properly. He had players at his disposal that HE chose not to use. He took the teeth out of the team. What reason can he possibly have for leaving out Fabianski? Rice?? and not even having Arnie in the squad after his twitter message proclaiming his intention to give his all?

    Does he think he needs keep Adrian happy? Masuaku happy? no he needs progress in the cup, because he is not Pep he doest have to prioritise a Champions league assault or a Premier league title attempt over the FA Cup. He has squandered a very live opportunity for a cup run and our season is now reduced to one question, which is will we finish higher mid table or lower mid table?

    It is for this reason that I disagree we need make purchases in this transfer window because it really doesn't matter now, we are not getting relegated and we are winning nothing, so may as well wait for the summer and build properly.

    Every cup game should have been treated like the final itself as there was simply no more important game this season than the current cup tie. And everyone knew it, except Pelle.
  • Cuz1Cuz1
    Or buy now and integrate them into the system while we are safe as opposed to blooding them into pre season and expecting them to hit the ground running
  • MIAHammerMIAHammer
    Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately) I wasn’t able to watch the game so can’t comment on the players but how poor must we be to concede 4 goals against a team languishing at the bottom of the 3rd tier. And why do we have Coventry and Holland on the bench and no Arnie?
  • MIAHammerMIAHammer
    Fortuneseeker said:

    That was just pitiful. Season virtually over and we aren’t out of January. Going to take a lot to finish 7th now. Pick your best team for the each game and worry about the next one when it comes around. ;angry

    Why are people saying there’s nothing to play for? £11.5m for 15th versus £25m for 8th. Each place is worth an extra £1.9m. I would say there’s still a lot to play for.

  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    Pelle picked a team that should have won that game imo too many of them did not turn up and a few will no longer be with the club in the summer . That team should have won the players need to take a large chunk of the responsibility for that . Pelle is a good manager he is attracting better players promoting youth and playing better football yet suddenly ppl saying he is a clown sorry I don’t get that. It was a bad result teams get them all the time. We are a work in progress but we are going in the right direction .
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    Not finishing in a position to have a chance of going into the Europa League is all I am concerned about, Winning a cup achieves that, the team last night failed to have the mindset to try to progress in the FA Cup!
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    I don’t think we are good enough to win the cup even if we had won last night one of the big boys will win it again probably.
  • BubblesNeverDiesBubblesNeverDies
    Wally Downes:
    "They are a passing team but with Andy Carroll in the side they have to go direct and they may have got caught between the two. We knew it was important to stop Mark Noble getting the ball."

    So maybe Wimbledon won because they had a plan. Did we have one? ;hmm
  • MarkNobleLocalHeroMarkNobleLocalHero
    Pelle picked a team that should have won that game
    Absolutely PLF. There is no arguing with that. Pelle had every right to expect that team to beat Wimbledon and I lay no blame at his door for the shambles. In fact subbing three at half time makes clear his disappointment (too soft a word?) at the first 45 and what those players did for the club, the fans and him in that first half.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    PLF + MNLH I absolutely agree

    We were never winning the cup, never.

    Those players last night should have been capable of making it much much harder for Wimbledon (having said that, cupsets happen, so we might still have been knocked out if we had our 'first XI' out there).


  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    I bet Wigan thought that a couple of years ago Mrs G.

    I know it was unlikely that we would have gone on to win it, but a couple of favourable draws in the next few rounds could have seen the big guns facing each other and we could have had a run to Wembley.
  • HamstewHamstew
    edited January 2019
    Got to be in it to win it. In reality the cups are the only thing clubs like ours have a chance in winning. What else is there?
  • horshamhammerhorshamhammer
    Cups are the only trophies we have a chance of winning in any of our lifetimes. If we're going to have a defeatist attitude about it then what's the point? Lots of Premier League teams out, the draw could have gone our way and once you get on a roll anything could happen. But no, let's all not give a stuff and look forward to finishing 12th.
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    I meant this year for the cup , once Pelle get another transfer window or two under his belt I think we will be in with a shout . The team has too many players that don’t fit Pelle system . The cup will be won by one of the big boys most seasons just like the league every so often you get a Wigan or Leicester our best chance is league cup .
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    Look at spurs so called big club they have won nothing in the last decade breaking the monopoly of the big teams is not going to be easy
  • LukerzLukerz
    I know he has been rusty & I wasn’t sure about the need to sign a new keeper, but doesn’t having Fabianski show up just how average Adrian is
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Yes. Absolutely yes.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Then there is Arthur Masuaku, last night not only did he not know who to defend but it looked like he forgot how to football.

  • IronHerbIronHerb
    I haven't seen the game yet but reading through this there is an awful lot of hindsight being used. No one slagged the team selection up front but then when we lost it became about the team selection.
  • LukerzLukerz
    And Diop & Ogbonna, after looking so good against Arsenal, to look like Sunday park players. I was expecting a lot more from Noble, Snodgrass, Obiang, Carroll & Diangana. I know Antonio was out of position & we all know about Masuaku, plus Hernandez never gives you the vibe he is up for these sorts of games (see Shrewsbury last season), but I expected much more from the five listed above, who I thought would all have the right mentality.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Herb

    You might want to swerve it, tbh. It is not an edifying watch...

    How could the team Pelle sent out first half NOT be considered good enough to play against the worst team in League 1?

    And far, far more baffling, how could it turn out that they weren't?
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited January 2019
    IronHerb said:

    I haven't seen the game yet but reading through this there is an awful lot of hindsight being used. No one slagged the team selection up front but then when we lost it became about the team selection.

    Can’t blame Pelle for the side. It wasn’t full strength but it was a first team 11 with plenty of players who have played regularly in recent weeks. He made 3 subs early too to try & change it.

    The players were just not up for that game & should be ashamed of themselves. I would say Fredericks & Anderson were ok, plus after we got back to 3-2 we had every chance of getting level & rescuing the embarrassment but we slumped back to how we played when it was 0-0/1-0/2-0.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    edited January 2019
    IronHerb said:

    I haven't seen the game yet but reading through this there is an awful lot of hindsight being used. No one slagged the team selection up front but then when we lost it became about the team selection.

    I absolutely thought the 11 MP picked could and should have been more than enough to beet Wimbledon, quite handsomely.

    The problem was, someone forgot to tell them.
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    I thought it was criminal not to play Anderson, personally. He's the kind of player these teams don't play against. They would have been worried about him from the first minute.

    We gave them a boost by resting players. In a cup game where they have nothing to lose, they really didn't need a boost.

    Have we played well even once with Carroll in the team this season? Feels like we are shocking and clueless every time he's there as a target man.

    Hernandez was anonymous.

    Similar to Anderson, I think it's awful that Fabianski, Cresswell and Rice didn't play.

    I cannot stand the attitude that second-string players should still be good enough to win. That's irrelevant, IMO. Pelle coming out and saying 'one team wanted to win and one team didn't' with reference to the attitude of the players is frankly laughable - you could say the same about the managers' team selections.

    It's not like we have a Champions League semi-final on Tuesday. We're away at Wolves, where win, lose or draw, nothing changes all that much.

    Masuaku was absolutely abysmal, as always. They caused so many problems down the right (a pattern whenever Masuaku plays), he was very lucky not to give away a penalty, and then to top it off dives. Please, please sell him.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Look at how professional ManCity players were in their first around semi final against much poorer opposition.

    Then look at last nights game.

    It doesn’t even look like the same sport.
  • LukerzLukerz
    Hopefully that has confirmed our striker options as Arnie, Hernandez, Perez, Antonio.

    Carroll just does not fit our style nor is he actually much good any more.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    I said last night that Carroll is done as a PL footballer.

    Looks absolutely shot to pieces.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Yep. He no longer looks like an option.

    Sad really.
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