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  • claretandblueskyclaretandbluesky
    I had forgot about that one, some people!
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Its at the Museum of Football in Manchester
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    David Gold does it again ;doh

    DG sent a nice tweet to a grandfather about his new granddaughter, saying this is her club and it will make her happy. Another fan replied to say that she would be very happy 'if we get decent owners that buy decent players'.

    DG replied with, "Don't you think our current players would find your comments insulting? dg"

    More than a little bit ironic given that his business partner publicly insulted two of our current playing staff.

    Also some comments that he didn't turn up to a meeting with a West Ham fan group ;hmm Anyone know anything about this?
  • MoojorMoojor
    OldCastleSwift said:

    David Gold does it again ;doh

    DG sent a nice tweet to a grandfather about his new granddaughter, saying this is her club and it will make her happy. Another fan replied to say that she would be very happy 'if we get decent owners that buy decent players'.

    DG replied with, "Don't you think our current players would find your comments insulting? dg"

    More than a little bit ironic given that his business partner publicly insulted two of our current playing staff.

    Also some comments that he didn't turn up to a meeting with a West Ham fan group ;hmm Anyone know anything about this?

    some fans should just learn to shut up as well. What's the point of having a dig at Gold when he is saying something nice.


  • HamstewHamstew
    Tbf that is classic. After what DS said about Snodgrass and Fonte
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    OCS

    Sorry, but I really, really, don't see how DG does anything again.

    What on earth can you find that is controversial in what he says?

    And as Moojor points out, do fans really need to be trolling him all over Twitter?
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    edited February 2018
    DG and DS did not show at the meeting with the the fans groups. KB did attend but again no news report from the club.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    I ddin't get the impression either of them would be at the meeting.

    I assumed the 'we' meant club representatives.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Well, I think DGs comment is jolly good.

    I wasn't too chuffed with DS saying disparaging things about current players. (I'm not bovvered about his saying stuff about past players, really - players and managers seem happy enough to write books digging out whoever they want to so I don't see why owners should have to keep schtum.) Saying positve things is much more what I like to see.


  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    edited February 2018
    Sullivan never goes to any of the fan meetings or forums or any of the player meet and greets.

    Brady attends meetings and forums as the board representative and occasionally Gold will accompany her.

    Meet a few of the players forums usually includes Gold (at least the ones I have been to did).

    More - no actual news.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    grey_til_I_dye said:

    OCS

    Sorry, but I really, really, don't see how DG does anything again.

    What on earth can you find that is controversial in what he says?

    And as Moojor points out, do fans really need to be trolling him all over Twitter?

    Nothing controversial Grey, but incredibly naive again, IMO. The irony of his comment about fans criticising players given Sully's recent history was bound to be picked up by people, and it does nothing for the board/fan relationship, which this thread is all about.

    Of course fans don't need to be trolling him all over Twitter. Equally, does he need to send provocotive responses? Granted, he's perfectly entitled to, but it isn't going to make for a healthy relationship, is it.

    Now I'm only a casual user of Twitter, but as far as I can see, no other PL chairmen are on there, bickering with fans.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    Moojor said:

    OldCastleSwift said:

    David Gold does it again ;doh

    DG sent a nice tweet to a grandfather about his new granddaughter, saying this is her club and it will make her happy. Another fan replied to say that she would be very happy 'if we get decent owners that buy decent players'.

    DG replied with, "Don't you think our current players would find your comments insulting? dg"

    More than a little bit ironic given that his business partner publicly insulted two of our current playing staff.

    Also some comments that he didn't turn up to a meeting with a West Ham fan group ;hmm Anyone know anything about this?

    some fans should just learn to shut up as well. What's the point of having a dig at Gold when he is saying something nice.


    100% agree Moojor.

    But let's be honest, it's never going to happen, is it.

    IMO at least, DG should take the higher ground and not engage in the way that he does. Arguably he shouldn't have to, but as I've just said to Grey, for the sake of the relationship between board and fans, I personally think he should.
  • horshamhammerhorshamhammer
    Obviously Gold and Sullivan didn't attend as they didn't think it important to do so. I suspect that will stiffen resolve and increase numbers on the 10th.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    What makes this group feel they should get preferential treatment compared to other fan groups?
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Obviously Gold and Sullivan didn't attend as they didn't think it important to do so.
    Didn't think it important that they did so.

    An unofficial, non-representative, selective group, get a meeting with the Vice-Chair of the club, and people don't think that is good enough?
  • horshamhammerhorshamhammer
    grey_til_I_dye said:

    An unofficial, non-representative, selective group, get a meeting with the Vice-Chair of the club, and people don't think that is good enough?

    Well considering fan unrest is at its greatest since the Bond scheme, I would have thought they might have spared some time.

  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    MrsGrey said:

    What makes this group feel they should get preferential treatment compared to other fan groups?

    Probably because they have actively got together a heavy number of people for a March co-ordinated with police and so on....
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    They are meeting with the police today.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    yeold, to change the procedure (of who goes to such mtgs) on the basis of 'they've organised a demonstration against us', would (imo) be stupid on the part of the owners.

    Such a change will just encourage more demonstrations (which presumably the owners don't want to do) and annoy the non-demonstrating fan groups who have in the past taken a different (?less confrontational and more constructive?) approach.
  • claretandblueskyclaretandbluesky
    I think this group have very quickly managed to organise themselves and achieve numbers, as well as bringing together a lot of other supporter groups to form a collective voice. I think this is what is new compared to previous groups and it makes them from the boards point of view too big and organised to ignore. How much they will take notice and allow influence remains to be seen but I feel the group have done really well to establish themselves so quickly and will begin to have their voice heard and achieve leverage of some sort. They will need retain unity within however, which is always a difficult one and ensure their message and public face is managed well to retain and grow support.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    MrsGrey said:

    yeold, to change the procedure (of who goes to such mtgs) on the basis of 'they've organised a demonstration against us', would (imo) be stupid on the part of the owners.

    Such a change will just encourage more demonstrations (which presumably the owners don't want to do) and annoy the non-demonstrating fan groups who have in the past taken a different (?less confrontational and more constructive?) approach.

    Good then imo. Football in general has got to the point that it needs action than people talking in boardrooms getting nowhere.

    Liverpool underpinned this when they kicked off at Anfield over pricing and took Action with their feet and left on the 77th minute.

    If the only way the people at the top of the game, Owners / FA / FIFA whoever start listening to people and actually do something is through action then I encourage more fans from every club to start marching more.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    claretandbluesky said:

    They will need retain unity within however,

    A key point ;ok

    I think there have already been signs of - shall we say 'different views'? - among them though.
  • TheMadcapLaughsTheMadcapLaughs
    MrsGrey said:

    claretandbluesky said:

    They will need retain unity within however,

    A key point ;ok

    I think there have already been signs of - shall we say 'different views'? - among them though.
    Where and how have these signs manifested themselves. On a report on WHO a chap that attended last nights meeting said that "everyone was on the same page and supported the RWHFAG".
  • TheMadcapLaughsTheMadcapLaughs
    And just to clarify, I`m pretty ambivalent regarding the march. Not keen on the owners, but personally can`t generate the necessary ooomph to get up and march/demonstrate. But I think what the organisers have achieved in a short space of time is pretty impressive and good luck to them.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    edited February 2018
    Madcap

    As a for instance:
    grey_til_I_dye said:

    "There's going to be people who think if we meet the Board we're selling out," he added. "But that's not me, Micky [Morgan] or anyone who's living this 24/7. We're in it for the long haul."
    Read more at http://www.kumb.com/story.php?id=132204#AcyAozDpV2FZoRLE.99


  • horshamhammerhorshamhammer
    TheMadcapLaughs said:

    Where and how have these signs manifested themselves. On a report on WHO a chap that attended last nights meeting said that "everyone was on the same page and supported the RWHFAG".

    Indeed. WHUISA, Hammers Chat, West Ham Fan TV, KUMB, WHO, all have come together to offer support to the RWHFAG.

  • VorselaarhammerVorselaarhammer
    What is the primary complaint? Can I find a list of the Demands from the March group anywhere?
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Vorse

    Herb posted this a while ago. Not sure if it is the focus of the march, or just the issues of the FB group.
    IronHerb said:

    The initial 5 points raised and sent to the club are:

    1 : Must take up full away ticket allocation

    2 : Memorial garden to be maintained regularly

    3: The Hammer and Castle badge to be recognised with immediate effect on match programme and, in future, in the stadium

    4 : The owners to be more professional on social media i.e remove the Sullivan kids from speaking on the clubs behalf

    5 : The 15 minute interval must be managed better in the food & drink kiosks as it currently impossible to get to the toilets get a drink and be back for the restart a for the second half

  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited February 2018
    re 'unity', to add to hat I said earlier. It seems to me (if what has been posted on here is a fair reflection) that there are different aims and priorities. Some of these include sack the board, make some improvements to the match day experience, change the badge, get young Sullivan off twitter, buy more expensive payers....

    There also seem to be approaches which are potentially conflicting: the most extreme (imo) being 'if we don't like their tone we're getting up and walking out'.

    In view of this, I repeat: I think keeping everyone who has come together for this initiative united for the long haul will be tricky but, a C+B alluded to, failing to do so will reduce the alliance's chances of success.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    A report on KUMB from last nights meeting: -

    http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=170186&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=1840#p5176276
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