Summer 2017 Transfer: The final countdown and the fallout

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  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    edited September 2017
    Slaven_Cups_His_Beard said:

    Jorderz_Slaven_A_Good_Time said:

    OutcastLondoner said:

    When a lot of fans think, rightly or wrongly, that the club has been stingy, it's not good PR to brag about savings.

    And what about the fans who don't think that? Or do the constantly-outraged think they speak for us all?
    Who said anyone spoke for anyone?

    It would appear OCS does at least partly agree, that's fine, no biggie either way.

    I presented what I'd seen and MY OPINION, I personally wasn't speaking for anyone or trying to speak for anyone.

    Constantly outraged? Who is that at?

    It's a forum, people bring things to the table, right, wrong, funny, sad........
    This was in response to Outcast's comment, not yours, so confused why you feel the need to defend YOUR opinion.

  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    See the way I see it, their previous posting in the subject of transfers has caused a bitter dispute with another club and probably cheesed off the manager. So looking at the latest post I'm struggling to understand what the point or meaning of the post is? It can be interpreted in a few ways so it would probably have been best just to leave the whole topic of transfers lie for a while.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    It's an advert by a separate company, though.
  • HammerwombatHammerwombat
    Good idea, the window is now closed and there is no changing what's happened.
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    edited September 2017
    That's what I think Barracks. I have no problem with the prices we paid or refused to pay.
    MrsGrey said:

    It's an advert by a separate company, though.

    But it appears to be the landing page and it's been purpose-designed. The club surely have a say over adverts that appear in that manner, so I think it's a bad decision because it's more likely to give more ammo to The Irritated than anything.
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    Jorderz @ 6.05

    I reckon its the fans who are being held to ransom due to their loyalty to the club to just accept the carnage at the end of the window. IMHO we didn't pay sensible money for Arnie and based on what has occurred since the funds could have been spent more wisely in strengthening in other areas like on a World class cdm. ;ok
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    I don't think it's been carnage neither have I been held to ransom.
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    Fortuneseeker said:

    Jorderz @ 6.05

    I reckon its the fans who are being held to ransom due to their loyalty to the club to just accept the carnage at the end of the window. IMHO we didn't pay sensible money for Arnie and based on what has occurred since the funds could have been spent more wisely in strengthening in other areas like on a World class cdm. ;ok

    We also got one of the best deals of the window in Hernandez. When the rest of the league paid ridiculous amounts, we got a proven PL striker (one of the best in recent years imo) for a very good price.
  • FortuneseekerFortuneseeker
    To clarify I made reference to the shenanigans at the the end of the window. I was delighted we signed Hernandez it is such a great pity we didn't back that up with a couple more signings of a similar class. Suppose I will questioned about the facts but I would like to think they are plain to see? ;ok
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    MrsGrey said:

    It's an advert by a separate company, though.

    As I said originally, 3rd part but surely the club vets what goes on there?
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    When does the window for loans close, thought there was like 2 weeks after the official transfer window closes that you can still do loan deals or has registration all be done now so no loans can happen.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    It's not for PL clubs, I thought?
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited September 2017
    Scrap that. I've just read that it was abolished last year, for all leagues. (Emergency GK loans excepted.)

    Edit - here's an explainer. http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10509644/emergency-loan-window-system-changes-explained
  • MunichHammerMunichHammer
    Leicester miss out on a deadline to register a player by 14 seconds. Now guess where the player came from!

    Sporting Lisbon. Seems like kind of a ploy to keep players at the club. Accept bids so late that the new club either pull out of the deal or they have to work overtime and lightning speed to get him registered.

    Makes Sully's claims a lot more credible.

    Http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/41118927
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    edited September 2017
    Bue Leicester have to keep and pay him though he cant play for them until January.

    Subject to appeal.
  • MunichHammerMunichHammer
    IH - that's the unfair part. I couldn't care less about Leicester but if SL left accepting a deal so late then they should be the ones paying. It doesn't seem that dissimilar to the Carvallho saga
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    It looks like SL fulfilled their part but Leicester were slow to complete.

    I agree it shows that it would have been a tricky deal to complete in time.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    And note that he unlike Carvalho had already flown to England prior to the deadline, to discuss personal terms and (presumably) have a medical...
  • MunichHammerMunichHammer
    It simply looks like Sully might be telling the truth about SL's transfer business, regardless of the stick everyone us using to beat him with.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    how do you know though ? do you know when Leicester put the bid in for Silva. Maybe Leicester put the bid in really late ?
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited September 2017
    Well, it couldn't have been that late because they got permission from the club to talk to him, and he got permission from Portugal to leave the training camp and fly to England for talks with Leicester. And he was in England in advance of the 11pm deadline, if what's reported in the papers is accurate. (Depends what you mean by 'really late' I suppose.)
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    As the article says Adrien Silva is now a Leicester player who can't play until January, he can't play for Sporting.

    Sporting sold Rúben Semedo to Villarrreal in June, Paulo Oliveira to SD Eibar in July and Felipe Chaby to Beleneses in July.

    It simply looks like you're trying to find excuses to back DS
  • MunichHammerMunichHammer
    It's just a feeling. I know, Leicester could have left it late. It just looks awkward to have similar situations for two players from the same parent club and it kind of leaves a bad taste in your mouth. If I remember correctly we also had personal terms agreed with Carvalho. How late is too late nowadays? I have no idea about flight times but if SL accept sometime mid afternoon it might be too late already as he wouldn't be able to get to London in time.
    There could be a perfectly harmless explanation for all of this. Then again there could be a perfectly harmless explanation for the Sakho saga.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited September 2017
    Aslef, is that addressed to me? I'm not looking for excuses for anything.


    I'm not 'backing' him. I've no idea if he, or the SL president, are telling the truth about if and when various bids were made/accepted. I'm also not automatically assuming he's lying.

    My recent comment reiterate the point I made before: it is quite plausible that (if SL did leave it to the last minute to agree the deal) it could have been too late to get the transfer sorted (with proper medical results).

    SL did some deals early. They did at least one deal late. The facts are not mutually exclusive, nor do they rule out the possibility that the Carvalho thing was also done (agreed) late. What's your point?
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Mrs G - it was addressed to Munich who had earlier written "it simply looks.....".

    Munich - how is it similar? Carvalho is still registered with Sporting, Silva is now registered with Leicester.
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Fair enough but the fact remains that Silva has transferred to Leicester. Apparently the deal was dependent on Drinkwater going to Chelsea which is why they late getting the registration done
  • NEoldironNEoldiron
    Interesting article about what a player is realistically worth compared with their transfer fee this summer.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41158426
  • MunichHammerMunichHammer
    ASLEFshrugged said:

    Fair enough but the fact remains that Silva has transferred to Leicester. Apparently the deal was dependent on Drinkwater going to Chelsea which is why they late getting the registration done

    If that is the case then fair enough. I just don't get a lot of the criticism directed at the Daves at the moment. The wouldn't let themselves be bullied into paying more than they thought the player was worth. Had they coughed up the 40m euros a lot of people would have said what a great signing he is, if he then doesn't hit the ground running they are then criticised for wasting 40m euros on a player.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Well I think at the end of the day, they let go of a D/M, Nordveit, (albeit not a great one) early in the window and ultimately didn't replace him.

    When it's clear to many that one of the areas of major weakness in our side is the ability (lack of) of our midfield to protect our defence, that doesn't come across as a particularly wise outcome overall. So there needs to be an element of culpability in there somewhere for that situation arising
  • alderzalderz
    The thing with the silva deal is that transfers can happen any time. The issue is that squad registration can't happen after the cut off. It's not unfair that Leicester signed a player after the registration deadline and then can't play him. All clubs know the rules
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