Summer 2017 Transfer: The final countdown and the fallout

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  • Giant_HammerGiant_Hammer
    Huttonhammer said:

    Utterly ridiculous . I hate to say it but Mr levy makes our board look like complete and utter amateurs.
    It is funny though that the club seems to make all the right noises about spending big and taking us forwards but the moves never seem to materialise for one reason or another.
    20 -25 doesn't buy game changers lots of clubs spend that and that seems all we are willing to spend and then only if we have sold loads of players.

    Hutton, I seem to remember the Brummy fans warning us of exactly that when the Daves took over at WHU.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    someone told me we have only 21 senior players (including the two players who like to keep the treatment table warm) and 3 of these are kids...
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    Can we close this thread its done and dusted now. The transfer windows are all closed.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    From the EPL website: -

    25 Squad players (*=Home grown)
    Antonio, Michail Gregory*
    Arnautovic, Marko
    Ayew, Andre Morgan Rami
    Byram, Samuel Mark*
    Carroll, Andrew Thomas*
    Collins, James Michael*
    Cresswell, Aaron*
    Fonte, Jose Miguel
    Hart, Charles Joseph John*
    Henry, Doneil Jor-Dee Ashley
    Hernandez Balcazar, Javier
    Kouyate, Cheikhou
    Lanzini, Manuel
    Makasi, Kusu Moses*
    Masuaku Kawela, Fuka-Arthur
    Noble, Mark James*
    Obiang Avomo, Pedro Mba
    Ogbonna, Obinze Angelo
    Reid, Winston Wiremu
    Sakho, Diafra
    San Miguel Del Castillo, Adrian
    Zabaleta Girod, Pablo Javier

    Under-21 players (Contract and Scholars)
    Adarkwa, Sean Jordan
    Akinola, Olatunji Oluwasehun
    Alese, Ajibola
    Barrett, Mason
    Belic, Kristijan
    Browne, Marcus Alexander
    Burke, Reece
    Costa Da Rosa, Bernardo
    Coventry, Conor
    Cullen, Joshua Jon
    Dalipi, Kevin
    Diangana, Grady
    El Mhassani, Anouar
    Fernandes Ribeiro, Edimilson
    Haksabanovic, Sead
    Hamilton, Malyk
    Hannam, Reece Phillip Peter
    Hector-Ingram, Jahmal Justin
    Henry, Korrey
    Holland, Nathan Elliot
    Johnson, Benjamin
    Kemp, Daniel
    Lewis, Alfie
    Longelo Mbule, Emmanuel
    Longelo-Mbule, Rosaire
    Martinez Lopez, Antonio
    Matrevics, Rihards
    Miller, Ethan
    Mingi, Jade Jay
    Neufville, Vashon
    Ngakia, Jeremy
    Oxford, Reece Joel
    Pask, Joshua David
    Pike, Alexander George
    Powell, Joe
    Quina, Domingos
    Rice, Declan
    Samuelsen, Martin
    Scully, Anthony Richard
    Spyridis, Odysseas
    Sylvestre, Noha
    Trott, Nathan Wallace Newman
    Watson, Louie Shaun
    Wells, Ben

    https://www.premierleague.com/news/465277#!
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    squad is so bare we are including 2 players in the Over 25 who probably will not make the bench on a match day squad ever.
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    This better be the season where we don't have our usual injury mess, otherwise we could be in for right fun and games
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    Doneil Henry still plays for us?
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Did he ever?
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Henry was on loan last season and picked up an ACL else he'd be gone I feel.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Slaven_Cups_His_Beard said:

    This better be the season where we don't have our usual injury mess, otherwise we could be in for right fun and games

    But it's a better squad than we started with last season isn't it?
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    On paper, yes

    Problem is games not played on paper and I also think we're a bit light in certain areas
  • ASLEFshruggedASLEFshrugged
    Charles Joseph John Hart?
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    edited September 2017
    This is supposedly legit, on the website.....

    Are they for real? And yes it's probably a 3rd party but surely we vet this stuff?

    Our PR is a shambles

    IMG_3117
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    What's wrong with it?
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    edited September 2017
    We've just underbid by 15m on a massive possible signing, spent only 14m net one of the lowest in the PL during the summer, some fans are in uproar and you're asking what's wrong with it?

    ;biggrin
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    Yes, and I'm still asking. What's wrong with it?
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    Okay, not getting involved in silly games

    ;ok
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    It's not silly games, it's a genuine question, but okay ;ok
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    When a lot of fans think, rightly or wrongly, that the club has been stingy, it's not good PR to brag about savings.
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    ;ok
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    OutcastLondoner said:

    When a lot of fans think, rightly or wrongly, that the club has been stingy, it's not good PR to brag about savings.

    And what about the fans who don't think that? Or do the constantly-outraged think they speak for us all?
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    On another note I wouldn't be bragging about saving money on the Arne transfer. He's hardly covered himself in glory thus far
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    edited September 2017
    IronHerb said:

    Slaven_Cups_His_Beard said:

    This better be the season where we don't have our usual injury mess, otherwise we could be in for right fun and games

    But it's a better squad than we started with last season isn't it?
    Not sure how we have a better squad after culling most of it. Better first 11 but the players behind that first 11 Nope and considering the last time we managed to field our best Full 11....then Nope definitely not a better squad.
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    Jorderz_Slaven_A_Good_Time said:

    OutcastLondoner said:

    When a lot of fans think, rightly or wrongly, that the club has been stingy, it's not good PR to brag about savings.

    And what about the fans who don't think that? Or do the constantly-outraged think they speak for us all?
    Who said anyone spoke for anyone?

    It would appear OCS does at least partly agree, that's fine, no biggie either way.

    I presented what I'd seen and MY OPINION, I personally wasn't speaking for anyone or trying to speak for anyone.

    Constantly outraged? Who is that at?

    It's a forum, people bring things to the table, right, wrong, funny, sad........
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    So Yeold,
    You would prefer to have Calleri, Zaza, Nordtveit, Tore, Feghouli, Snodgrass, Arbeloa and Fletcher back in the squad? Most of whom you criticised as being no good.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    No I would have preferred to see players brought in to replace the ones we left. Something we didn't achieve because for some strange reason our finances are still a mess despite the increased revenue ETC
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    Jorderz_Slaven_A_Good_Time said:

    OutcastLondoner said:

    When a lot of fans think, rightly or wrongly, that the club has been stingy, it's not good PR to brag about savings.

    And what about the fans who don't think that? Or do the constantly-outraged think they speak for us all?
    What about them? Do they feel personally connected to this advert and feel it must stay?

    I think it is objectively bad PR because it doesn't really appeal to anyone but further enrages some. If there's little to not benefit but an obvious disadvantage to the a piece of advertising, isn't that bad PR? (Even from the advertising company's side, who are they appealing to with that?)
  • HuttonhammerHuttonhammer
    Ironherb

    You have really hit the nail on the head. Trying to make a point to Yeold.
    Who exactly was responsible for vetting and signing all those players?
    I have no idea what goes on behind the scenes but our transfer policy on the whole is a complete joke.
    We bought a couple of decent players and let loads go but we did not get enough quality or numbers in , in the positions required to push for anything other than mid table.
    We also once again failed to get in a big name or 2 that could really make a difference.
    I believe that our board want to take the club forwards but to me they need serious help as they don't seem to know what they are doing in my view.
  • HammerwombatHammerwombat
    Just in case anyone needs it, the Samaritans phone number is 116 123
  • Jorderz_Moyes_will_be_MoyesJorderz_Moyes_will_be_Moyes
    OutcastLondoner said:

    Jorderz_Slaven_A_Good_Time said:

    OutcastLondoner said:

    When a lot of fans think, rightly or wrongly, that the club has been stingy, it's not good PR to brag about savings.

    And what about the fans who don't think that? Or do the constantly-outraged think they speak for us all?
    What about them? Do they feel personally connected to this advert and feel it must stay?

    I think it is objectively bad PR because it doesn't really appeal to anyone but further enrages some. If there's little to not benefit but an obvious disadvantage to the a piece of advertising, isn't that bad PR? (Even from the advertising company's side, who are they appealing to with that?)
    I have no doubt there are fans out there (myself included) who are objectively happy that the club was not held to ransom with transfer fees to appease the outraged Tweeters, and instead are proud of the fact the club paid sensible money for good signings. So yes, I think it's a pleasing piece of PR, and I think suggesting the club should keep quiet in order to satisfy those most vocal and frustrated is incorrect.
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