Summer 2017 Transfer: The final countdown and the fallout

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  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Starting to get nasty now. Sporting claiming there was never a bid for Carvalho and challenging Sully to prove he made one and prove it was rejected.
    I doubt he will do anything but it would be good if he could because otherwise he won't be trusted at all by anyone especially the fans.
  • McHammerMcHammer
    edited September 2017
    “At West Ham, we insist on a financial penalty if our players do not get plenty of first-team time.”
    Quote from K Brady
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    For loans?
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    "Otherwise he won't be trusted"

    From what I'm seeing he isn't but so many, right now
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited September 2017
    Background info on medicals. If anyone is interested in finding out more.

    http://www.physioroom.com/news/featured_stories/medicals.php What's involved.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-30269991
    "My ideal medical would probably last about four hours."
    ... medicals would ideally be held over a 24-48 hour period to allow for a full range of screenings, scans and physiological testing


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zx4sp39 Short video report of Phil Neville 'having a medical'.
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    MrsGrey said:

    Slaven_Cups_His_Beard said:

    Bit naughty I know but you have to ;lol

    West Ham owners - "Sporting are too hard to deal with"

    Is that a direct quote, Izzy? Which one of them said it?
    Mrs G, just took a look around, that wasn't my "joke" by the way, I just nicked it ;whistle but it would appear that the clubs main mouthpiece C&H reported how difficult SL were to deal with, having turned down various bids from MCFC, EFC and WBA

    Of course everyone knows that sites info comes from sully himself, about once a week because Sully allegedly told him to stop pestering him ;lol
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited September 2017
    Izzy ;ok

    I subsequently realised you'd got it somewhere else, as that 'somewhere else' was the only place it showed up when I searched for the source of the quote.

    So, it was a made-up quote.




  • HamstewHamstew
    Well this all just got a little bit more interesting on Twitter
  • HamstewHamstew
    To Bruno de Carvalho the president of sporting Lisbon. To say we never made an offer is nonsense and serious libel. From Dave jnr for those not on twitter
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    ?
  • HamstewHamstew
    West Ham are commencing legal proceedings against the communications director of sporting Lisbon as a written offer for the player was made
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    ;hmm

    Against the communications director?

    Still, if true, interesting to see they are certain that hey have a case.
  • HamstewHamstew
    edited September 2017
    Moore_than_a_nick said:

    Doesn't bode well for signing Carvalho in January though!

    That's what I thought. I think us doing any future deals with sporting are dead.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited September 2017
    Moore-than

    After what the SL owner said about Sullivan, I suspect that was unlikely anyway. That relationship had irretrievably broken down, methinks.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    What concerns me more is had it all gone through we may actually have ended up signing the Sporting chairman by mistake.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    Didn't you want Sully out then? ;lol
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    edited September 2017
    Again all Sully had to do was say nothing on the matter. If you allow relations with another club sour needlessly it will only come back to bite in terms of future potential transfers. We are already in that boat with Spurs, and now Sporting Lisbon.

    All he has succeeded in doing is cheese off SL, cheese off his own manager, and generally made our club a bit of a laughing stock.

    Very well done, Sully, I hope you are proud of your actions.

    ;doh
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    If sully was going to pay the release clause he would have already done so, so it's a moot point
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    edited September 2017
    baracks_a_hammer said:

    Again all Sully had to do was say nothing on the matter. If you allow relations with another club sour needlessly it will only come back to bite in terms of future potential transfers.

    No. Don't agree at all, baracks. (On this occasion, anyway - often I think he'd do better to keep it zipped but on this issue I think it is right not to let it go.)

    If he'd said nothing, the fans who have called him a liar on the back of the SL guy's comments would persist in calling him a liar. In no possible alternative reality would those people say 'oh, ok, he's telling the truth but is keeping schtum because he just doesn't want to sour relations with the SL guy'. So you have part of the fan base calling him a liar in perpetuity.

    Second, he's got to continue to deal in the transfer market with other owners/clubs... how can he go about his business with an unchallenged label of 'liar' attached to him? That would be no good for West Ham.

    I think it's saying nothing that would come back to bite in terms of future potential transfers.

    (Unless everybody knows that, as rumoured, the SL guy is loony tunes.... )


  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Maybe the DM is the SL president's son and just didn't want him to leave home.
  • PrestonHammerPrestonHammer
    How about Sully just says nothing to start with?
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    So they reckon they bid 23m via email and an agent, think we were a bit low?
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    You think Sully will climb down and pay pay extra monies in the process? I don't. He's not even prepared to pay off managers he no longer wants!
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Maybe SL will settle out of court and just give us Carvalho in January Better still they terminate his contract and we pick him up now.
  • McHammerMcHammer
    WHU_Champo_league_in_7_years said:

    For loans?

    Sorry yes
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    baracks_a_hammer said:

    You think Sully will climb down and pay pay extra monies in the process? I don't. He's not even prepared to pay off managers he no longer wants!

    And then people moan that contracts aren't honoured. Cant have it both ways.
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    Slaven_Cups_His_Beard said:

    So they reckon they bid 23m via email and an agent, think we were a bit low?

    Went to Junk Mail?
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    IronHerb said:

    baracks_a_hammer said:

    You think Sully will climb down and pay pay extra monies in the process? I don't. He's not even prepared to pay off managers he no longer wants!

    And then people moan that contracts aren't honoured. Cant have it both ways.
    No idea what point is being made. The signs are clearly there, as with Sam, that the board may not want to continue longer term with him. So they would rather let it meander, stunting any progress the club might make. There is a distinction between players and managers.
  • HuttonhammerHuttonhammer
    I would like to believe that we were really trying for Carvalho but it's hard to believe in this day and age we would have let things go down to the last seconds if we really were going to pay big money.
    There is always noise but we never spend the money that will take us forwards.
    I really thought in this window we were going to change for the better but we will do really well to avoid relegation with such a small injury plagued squad.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    I personally think that had we won, drawn or even had a small defeat but played well v Newcastle, then Carvalho would be our player today.
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