Summer 2017 Transfer: The final countdown and the fallout

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  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    He's getting further and further away from the highest levels

    At this rate he'll be playing for Tamlin's Billericay Town soon
  • McHammerMcHammer
    Rav was listed as unattached on sky the other day. Wonder if lazio released him first.
  • NEoldironNEoldiron
    The Billericay Beckham - get him in Sully
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41128014
    ;biggrin
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    McHammer, the beeb has it as a season-long loan from Lazio. ;hmm
  • McHammerMcHammer
    I believe them and you to be correct.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    MrsGrey said:

    What will the final day bring?

    Nothing

    At all.
  • sweepy23sweepy23
    Firstly I am disappointed in the club and the transfer window.

    The club has sold a vision, one which has not been met and will not be met for some time.

    Last summer we bought quantity over quality, this year we bought quality but not enough.

    Irrespective of the above, I really want Bilic to do well. Personally I think last year the owners bought a lot of tosh. And this year he has made the point that no one can join without his approval.

    Last year it was an impossible job to integrate a dozen new players (no wonder Sakho and others are unhappy). It makes absolute sense for him to refuse any player he didn't want.

    Why upset the apple cart?!? Why have to explain to another player why they can't get into the team. Last year was a lose lose for Bilic.

    The club didn't back him with Carvalho and of course he said no to anyone else. For Morale purposes he needs people to think they have a chance. The club haven't helped.

    Back the team and back Bilic. Let's finish in the top 12 and tell the board to back him.

    Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if we finished top 10 and Bilic walked.

    We were all sold a dream....
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    I have no idea how true this quote is

    Sporting Lisbon president: "We received no concrete bids for William Carvalho off West Ham or any other club"

    It could just be a play on words as in SL didn't see our bid/valuation as "concrete"

    However, if we didn't actually bid then what was really going on?
  • FlorinRaducliousFlorinRaduclious
    Does he mean at all or just on deadline day? Because as far as I am aware we were definitely in talks and had bids rejected in the last couple of weeks. However, there wasn't much to suggest we actually bid on DD. There was in fact a rumour that as we couldn't agree on the fee with Sporting we had an attempt at Gomes of Barca who may have been willing to come on loan but were defeated as it was conditional on Courtinho moving to Barca.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift

    https://whufc.com/news/articles/2017/september/01-september/sullivan-delivers-transfer-window-verdict

    So Sporting actually accepted our original offer for Carvalho yesterday, but it was "too late" for us to conduct a medical?! Clubs were signing players at 1am. How late did they accept the offer?!
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    edited September 2017
    "Grzegorz Krychowiak and Renato Sanches were both offered to the manager before their switches elsewhere, but he told us that he is happy with the squad he has.

    "As a Board we are behind Slaven, and he believes he has the tools to turn around our form and rectify our disappointing start to the season."

    Talk about publicly setting him up for a fall...
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    Slaven Bilic didn't want Renato Sanchez.

    If this is true, I'm done with football.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    edited September 2017
    So basically, Sully has absolved himself of any blame. I'm really disappointed with that last paragraph. He has put everything on Bilic here. For me, there should be collective responsibility; we believe that we have the tools to turn this around.

    Honestly think he's sharpened the knives here.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Given that as long as the FA received signed details by all parties that a transfer had been agreed clubs had until 1 am to complete the deal. There were medicals taking place at midnight last night so unless Sporting accepted the offer after 11 pm or close to it there was time to get the deal moving even if it fell through before 1 am.
    Gomes is a totally different player to Carvalho so wouldn't have been an alternative anyway.
    Slav says he's happy with the squad he's got but he wasn't saying that after the first three games as he said we desperately need a DM
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Carvalho was playing football for Portugal last night until about 10pm.

    Don't know what time Sporting Lisbon contacted the club to say they would take the 35m that they had previously rejected, but presumably not in sufficient time to get the player from the stadium to a facility where he could undergo a satisfactory medical exam.

    Really botched by Sporting. Maybe they didn't realise what time the window closed (it's still open in Portugal).
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    Well I'm sure the board will be working towards securing Carvalho in the January window now we know they've accepted the offer.

    Though I'd put good money on it not happening.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Sporting Lisbon will probably up the price and call it a January premium.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    This is Sporting trying to say it wasn't their fault the deal fell through.
    So now we go back and get him in January, simple.

    Let's see. ;hmm
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    Pretty sure we won't go back in for him. Unless Rafa wants him of course.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    edited September 2017
    Rafa won't be here, unless you meant for Newcastle.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    Who do you reckon will replace Bilic then?
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    No one. He'll still be here.
  • thornburyironthornburyiron
    Mrs G he didn't have to have the medical before 11 pm but merely sign a form saying he's agreeable to joining West Ham. The medical could take place after that as long as it was complete and all the paperwork done before 1am. Chelsea and Leicester were doing this last night.
  • FlorinRaducliousFlorinRaduclious
    Slizzy, have you got a link for that quote? Where has he said it because I cannot see it on their official site or their twitter or his personal twitter. Not doubting you, just wonder how trustworthy the source is ;ok

    Because if it is true either him or DS are directly lying. I'm working under the presumption the Bruno de Carvalho (Sporting Pesident) quote is not real tbh.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    Thorn ;ok Sully 100% deflecting, IMO

    Herbie, if our current form continues and we lose the next three, which is very possible, you don't see the board acting?
  • FlorinRaducliousFlorinRaduclious
    As far as the deal not going through due to time, that is infuriating. Sporting's fault if they didn't realise our deadline, but we are the ones who suffer. I really wanted him here, what I have seen of him was a class act.
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    But it's all if, if, if. What if we win our next 3? Do we sack him then?
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    edited September 2017
    No.

    But us losing the next three is more likely than winning them based on what I've seen.

    So if we lose them, do you think they'll sack him?
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    No
  • Slaven_Cups_His_BeardSlaven_Cups_His_Beard
    Florin sorry it was off a fairly large football twitter account (I think), it could be complete rubbish but there again so could our chairmans version of events?

    Sully going public on all this not surprised, although I'm not sure I buy the medical bit, and as for adding the players that SB may or may not of turned down

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