Summer 2017 Transfer Speculation (continued)

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  • EXETERHAMMEREXETERHAMMER
    Snodgrass to Villa?
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Young Jack's science project ;thumbsup

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  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    Wouldn't trust the mail although I'd like to see him go, mostly coz he's in huge wages but also coz he just isn't good enough for where we wanna get to
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    Has anyone seen Watford's unveiling video for Andre Gray?
  • LukerzLukerz
    Strange interview by Danny Rose?
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/08/10/spurs-danny-rose-looks-move-north-calls-signings-dont-have-google/
  • eskimokingeskimoking
    Seems to me like he's made some demands behind closed doors and been fobbed off so he's going public? Just my guess mind you.
  • WHU_Champo_league_in_7_yearsWHU_Champo_league_in_7_years
    edited August 2017
    Could be as lukerz said it's a bit strange

    Maybe it's a message to the board that they need to try step it up a level

    Mind you I can't help but wonder that he's just seen one of his clubs best players being sold and that player has doubled his wages at a team who are now more likely to win a major competition than Spurs

    He has no boyhood favourite team allegiance to spurs so I don't blame him, just strange that he's made it so public
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Sounds like it was part of a much longer, wide-ranging interview, and the Sun just cherry picked quotes?
  • eskimokingeskimoking
    Does indeed seem like that MrsG, but that doesn't take away from what he has said. I don't think much context is needed to realise the severity of some of those quotes.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    ;ok

    I think most of what he said is fair enough...

  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    Yorkshire lad calling a spade a spade....

  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Real northeners call a spade a shovel ;wink
  • BazshuayiBazshuayi
    That’s a threp in’t steans

    (total coincidence that I just stumbled on this bit of Yorkshire wisdom....)
  • VorselaarhammerVorselaarhammer
    Things dont seem happy at the lane such a shame.....
  • alderzalderz
    A lot of twitter talk about William Carvalho. Sporting Lisbon & Portugal DM. He's a very good player, but obviously that is a step up in quality from the Portuguese league (think Gianni Imbula). Apparently he has recently changed agents and wants to move to us. We're offering £25m.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Allegedly the release clause is £40m
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    According to the Telegraph we are serious: -

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/08/10/west-ham-bid-club-record-271m-william-carvalho/
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    Oooo serious ;biggrin

    What are serious about? A 15 man midfield?
  • VorselaarhammerVorselaarhammer
    For me would rank as the most significant signing of the Summer if we got him.

    We would move into Top 8 expectation rather than hope imo.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    Who does Carvalho even replace ?
  • OutcastLondonerOutcastLondoner
    Yeoldhammer said:

    Who does Carvalho even replace ?

    Nordviedt, obviously.
  • VorselaarhammerVorselaarhammer
    Replaces Noble or Kouyate in the middle.

    This will allow us to play the 4231 formation with more confidence.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    Who do Sporting Lisbon have in the CL quals ?
  • Pearces_Left_FootPearces_Left_Foot
    Can't see noble playing if we sign him ;hmm
  • Tomw85Tomw85
    I would be very happy if we pull this off! We could be lining up as per the below:

    Hart

    Zab Reid Fonte Cresswell

    Carvalho Obiang

    Antonio Lanzini Arnautovic

    Hernandez


    Subs: Adrian, Ogbonna, Masuaku, Kouyate, Noble, Fernandes, Ayew, Carrol

    Just think back a couple of seasons and most of us would have jumped at the chance to have all of those on the bench above in our starting line up, and that's not including others such as Byram, Collins, Sakho. I am not counting Feg and Snod as it looks as though they are both off now.

    That is a very strong squad, my only concern is genuine back up for Lanzini but we do have a number of players that could fill in there, one of whom was our record signing last season!
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    If this came off, there's a very small chance that even Twist might praise the owners...
  • IronHerbIronHerb
    I'm not sure the CL would come into it if he is determined to get to the EPL unless, of course, one of our CL teams takes a fancy to him.
  • FlorinRaducliousFlorinRaduclious
    I was between jobs for part of the summer of 2015 and watched pretty much all the 2015 European U21 Championships. Due to weird rules a 23 year old William Carvalho could play for Portugal's U21, after he had already played for at least a year for the senior team. He was awesome. Head and shoulders over most other players in the competition. Obviously he clearly benefited from being further ahead in his development than most other players but I remember at the time thinking that he had a huge future in front of him. Every transfer window I have expected him to move to a bigger team in a bigger league but he has stayed with Sporting. I must note that outside those U21 Champo's in 2015 I've only seen him play once at the last Senior Euro's in 2016 in the final. He looked good in that. From what I have seen he would be great for us. A definitive DCM who sits and holds. Great engine but not a top end sprinter. Resultantly not as everywhere as a Kante, but had very good distribution and vision, exceeding Kante IMO. Very calm on the ball. Very strong and a top tackler. He is a pure DCM in that he didn't push forward too much, I imagine he would work best in a 433 with the middle three working as a 'v' with him at the base. Maybe this is why Bilic wanted fewer attacking mid's as he wants to go 433 rather than 4231?

    -----------JH/ASM-------------
    PZ/SB---WR/JC--JF/AO---AC/AM
    ----------Carvalho----------
    ----CK/MN-------PO/ML-----
    MO/RS------------------MA/AA
    ---------JH/AC/DS----------

    Looks a good squad. Efectively take your pick from 5 for the two box to box CMs. Fernandes can come in as one of the higher CMs or Wingers, and Lanz can also play wing. Obiang can deputise at DCM if Carvalho is out.
  • tomkinsworldclasstomkinsworldclass
    Florin, ;clap ;clap He's always impressed me whenever I've seen him and if we can get it over the line then it would be a great addition for the club. An out and out DCM, very composed, efficient, strong and intelligent in how he plays the game. Would hopefully free up Noble, obaing, Kouyate, etc to play higher up knowing that we do have a high quality holding midfield back.
  • FlorinRaducliousFlorinRaduclious
    Would be a huge signing TWC. At the moment I in all honesty am not getting my hopes too high as I thought another big budget signing was unlikely this summer. I just really hope we do see it transfer confirmed on the official site! Freeing up those boys could enable us to play some good technical football IMO, with Carvalho spreading the play and being the lynch pin. Generally I have been a fan of 4231 for us, but feel that formation with Carvalho wouldn't work quite so well, so it would be a change of style for us if it occurred to the 433, however Slav was clearly experimenting with that over the pre season.

    Moore_than - in a classic 433 the two wingers don't track back too much. Protection is done with the three middle men who shuffle across slightly where necessary to where the play is, particularly the 'free' DCM. Antonio would certainly not be in the middle three but one of the wingers - he is not technical enough for the box to box men, but is right for the wing position being quick and a good dribbler. For a classic 433 (think Barce) of your three middle you have an out and out DCM (ie Busquets) and then two more box to box but generally technically very astute players (ie Xavi/Iniesta/Rakatic), obviously we'd be on a slightly lower level!

    **please note the MO on my above formation at RW should have been MA!
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