We don't ever spend big money really and it seems the directors make loads of noise but that's all it is. We have bought a couple of players that are no better than what we have already really .We have a new stadium which we pay very little for . We have sold Payet and sold our old ground for a pretty penny.
The questions I would ask are.
Where is the money?
See previous post, but essentially, what money?
Big money? you know we've spent more than ever in our history and the big TV deal hasn't even been received yet? Have a look at our squad in 2010 and look at it now, night and day. We may pay very little for the stadium, but we pay out a whole lot for players wages, and that's not even the top top players.
Or are you one of those that think the Dave's have trousered it all? You know and the books are bent as well? ;biggrin
My suggestion and it is just a suggestion, take what the Dave's say regarding Marquee 30m strikers and "next level" with a pinch of salt.
We're 3 years away from having buckets of cash to blow on top players
I think its a wonderful time to be an owner of a football club. In general for the last 20 years/as long as I can remember, it seems as if they've always had to invest more money than they've made. Owners would help bankroll a club and it would be common for them to dip their hands into their pockets to get a club out of trouble.
To me, after the January transfer window, the tides seem to have changed. I know this is an isolated window but there was very little overall net expense by the premier league. Thanks to China spending huge amounts on certain players the league has had a better import/export balance. I could easily see clubs aiming to sell one player a year to China (if it lasts) to cover a large chunk of their own transfer budgets. Fans would be very happy to conclude good transfer business and for the club to make money if this were possible. Fans are unhappy when they believe the transfer business was poor. Not by how much money the club made or lost.
With the huge TV revenues, the huge valuations now placed on football clubs, coupled with a new player export market, high interest repayments on loans, and particularly for us a new free stadium, the owners should be on cloud nine.
Just catching up with the transfer news... Not signing a striker and a right back is criminal. Carroll gets injured tonight we've got Fletcher + Calleri as options. If Byram gets injured, who plays right back? Antonio?
Blame the manager then Twist, Sully has confirmed how our transfer dealings work and it's his final say.
You'd of shot "he who cannot be named" in seconds
;biggrin
As I've said previously i don't believe a word that Sullivan says. I see DG has been passing the blame onto the manager too on twitter ;doh And yes i think Bilic is being told what to say from the owners so they don't get any stick. That's how classy they are.
They said they would spend big on a striker in the summer, we got Zaza and Calleri on loan deals... Now this window has passed we've been told we will try again in the summer. Laughable really.
7m profit we made this window. Not including the wages we save on Payet and Zaza...
Then believe the Manager instead Twist, he's said we're not spending
Take your choice.
Passing the blame? Or telling it how it is?
You think a man like Bilic would agree to being pushed around like that.
I don't think so.
As I said stop listening to their jumped up stories, they get a bit carried away.
In the long term we've made 7m, assuming we don't spend it in the summer, in reality we've made nothing as the books will show as the transfers are not paid in one lump the day of the signing
If you are just going to assume everyone at the club is lying, you can make up any sort of statements, and they are effectively unchallengeable, since you are not prepared to accept what anyone says as evidence.
Personally, as per the article on the OS, I believe Slav when he says he was the one who decided not to go ahead with Hogan and I believe him when he says:
we were maybe looking for a right-back. We couldn’t find someone who would improve our squad or first eleven and that’s why we didn’t get one. I’m very happy with the squad now.
So, rather than being cheap and criminally negligent, the owners AND the manager considered both a CF and a RB, and decided against signing anyone.
Not sure what else you think they should have done. Signed anyone, even if the manager didn't rate them, just to keep fans like you happy?
Jonathan Calleri has revealed a phone call from West Ham cult hero Carlos Tevez convinced him to remain with the club.
"I did speak to him a few months ago. When he arrived at West Ham, he was in a similar situation that I found myself in," the 23-year-old told Sky Sports News HQ.
"It was hard for him and it was also hard for me. I am staying here, I want to battle, I have taken his advice on board and I want to be successful and follow in his footsteps."
West Ham will go back in with a £15m bid for Manchester City goalkeeper Joe Hart this summer. (The Sun)
Can't believe they would spend 15m on a goalkeeper when we already have two decent goalies already. Much better off spending the money on a decent striker to back up A C.
The club need to be identifying a real LONG term solution at right back from now till June, because that is the major hole in our squad right now (and not the only one)
We need another forward as well, I like that Calleri is willing to fight but I doubt he'll come good
Andy carroll has proven he can score and be the striker we need but his injury record speaks for itself he cannot be relied on
I personally don't think Hart is needed, I just don't see how he's that much better than what we have and he'll be very expensive
Big half a season for several of the players
Ayew needs to show something (anything), Feghouli to prove he can cut it consistently in the EPL, Nordtveit, Calleri and Masuaka likewise, Cresswell needs to show if he can become one of the better left backs in the legaue, byram finally has his chance to see if he's good enough and snodgrass and Fonte need to show their form for their old clubs for us
Big calls to make as in terms of numbers this squad is huge but there are too many underperforming players in this squad
"We are heavily linked with every player looking for a move! I rate Joe Hart really highly as a great goalkeeper and personality. On the other hand, if there is one position that I am not even thinking of changing it is goalkeeper because I have two great ones".
Unless, of course, he's been told to say that... ;whistle
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Big money? you know we've spent more than ever in our history and the big TV deal hasn't even been received yet? Have a look at our squad in 2010 and look at it now, night and day. We may pay very little for the stadium, but we pay out a whole lot for players wages, and that's not even the top top players.
Or are you one of those that think the Dave's have trousered it all? You know and the books are bent as well? ;biggrin
My suggestion and it is just a suggestion, take what the Dave's say regarding Marquee 30m strikers and "next level" with a pinch of salt.
We're 3 years away from having buckets of cash to blow on top players
just my opinion mind
;ok
To me, after the January transfer window, the tides seem to have changed. I know this is an isolated window but there was very little overall net expense by the premier league. Thanks to China spending huge amounts on certain players the league has had a better import/export balance. I could easily see clubs aiming to sell one player a year to China (if it lasts) to cover a large chunk of their own transfer budgets. Fans would be very happy to conclude good transfer business and for the club to make money if this were possible. Fans are unhappy when they believe the transfer business was poor. Not by how much money the club made or lost.
With the huge TV revenues, the huge valuations now placed on football clubs, coupled with a new player export market, high interest repayments on loans, and particularly for us a new free stadium, the owners should be on cloud nine.
Sigh.
You'd of shot "he who cannot be named" in seconds
;biggrin
And yes i think Bilic is being told what to say from the owners so they don't get any stick. That's how classy they are.
They said they would spend big on a striker in the summer, we got Zaza and Calleri on loan deals...
Now this window has passed we've been told we will try again in the summer. Laughable really.
7m profit we made this window. Not including the wages we save on Payet and Zaza...
Take your choice.
Passing the blame? Or telling it how it is?
You think a man like Bilic would agree to being pushed around like that.
I don't think so.
As I said stop listening to their jumped up stories, they get a bit carried away.
In the long term we've made 7m, assuming we don't spend it in the summer, in reality we've made nothing as the books will show as the transfers are not paid in one lump the day of the signing
The club, whomever it may be individually, Geoff the canteen guy, should have agreed that we needed more cover.
The guy is a self made multi millionaire and he shows continued curtsy.
I don't think I would have the same patience.
If you are just going to assume everyone at the club is lying, you can make up any sort of statements, and they are effectively unchallengeable, since you are not prepared to accept what anyone says as evidence.
Personally, as per the article on the OS, I believe Slav when he says he was the one who decided not to go ahead with Hogan and I believe him when he says: So, rather than being cheap and criminally negligent, the owners AND the manager considered both a CF and a RB, and decided against signing anyone.
Not sure what else you think they should have done. Signed anyone, even if the manager didn't rate them, just to keep fans like you happy?
Mods remove it if possible.
;hug
Jonathan Calleri has revealed a phone call from West Ham cult hero Carlos Tevez convinced him to remain with the club.
"I did speak to him a few months ago. When he arrived at West Ham, he was in a similar situation that I found myself in," the 23-year-old told Sky Sports News HQ.
"It was hard for him and it was also hard for me. I am staying here, I want to battle, I have taken his advice on board and I want to be successful and follow in his footsteps."
Re Hart - would be very happy with that. But as long as it's not at the expense of a right back...
Him and will Hughes (to start taking over from noble) would be my choice of top targets
I would say we should make a r/b a must but it starts to sound like a broken record. By making it a non priority we might actually sign one.
decent goalies already.
Much better off spending the money on a decent striker to back up A C.
We need another forward as well, I like that Calleri is willing to fight but I doubt he'll come good
Andy carroll has proven he can score and be the striker we need but his injury record speaks for itself he cannot be relied on
I personally don't think Hart is needed, I just don't see how he's that much better than what we have and he'll be very expensive
Big half a season for several of the players
Ayew needs to show something (anything), Feghouli to prove he can cut it consistently in the EPL, Nordtveit, Calleri and Masuaka likewise, Cresswell needs to show if he can become one of the better left backs in the legaue, byram finally has his chance to see if he's good enough and snodgrass and Fonte need to show their form for their old clubs for us
Big calls to make as in terms of numbers this squad is huge but there are too many underperforming players in this squad