Slaven Bilic named as West Ham Manager (09.06.15)

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  • tomkinsworldclasstomkinsworldclass
    SuzanneClaret said:

    I love him ;carew

    Me too ;hug ;hug ;hug ;hug
  • HammerexHammerex
    So it seems everyone loves Bilic now. It wasn't all that long ago that many fans on this forum wanted to keep B F S. Thankfully we didn't.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    hammerex said:

    So it seems everyone loves Bilic now. It wasn't all that long ago that many fans on this forum wanted to keep B F S. Thankfully we didn't.

    One has nothing to do with the other.

    Behave.
  • YeoldhammerYeoldhammer
    FA Cup over Champs League YES !
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    I wonder what he'd have said if asked to make the equally spurious choice between FA Cup and staying in the PL. ;wink
  • Expat_HammerExpat_Hammer
    Sorry Mrs Grey, the auditions for devils advocate are on Monday

    ;run
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    I'd have liked Benitez.

    I'd have respected Ancelotti.

    But my word I love Bilic.
  • LukerzLukerz
    edited January 2016
    MrsGrey said:

    I wonder what he'd have said if asked to make the equally spurious choice between FA Cup and staying in the PL. ;wink

    A choice, he'd argue, he'll never have to make, based on his managerial ability. ;wink
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    It's a choice nobody has to make, Luke. That was sort of my point ;ok
  • HammerexHammerex
    Don't agree Suz, first they want to keep Sam,and don't want Bilic, but now the Hammers are playing much better football under Bilic and they love him.
  • MrsGreyMrsGrey
    Who are these 'they' you refer to?
  • HammerexHammerex
    The supporters that didn't want Bilic as manager.
  • LukerzLukerz
    hammerex ;hmm

    I agree there are some who were cautious about letting Sam go for fear of relegation, but as Bilic has proven, Sam is not the only man capable of taking us to top six at Xmas and survival.

    I can't think of anybody who didn't want Bilic but now love him. ;hmm

    I wanted Sam gone, Bilic (anybody) in and still feel justified in my view.
  • LukerzLukerz
    MrsGrey said:

    It's a choice nobody has to make, Luke. That was sort of my point ;ok

    But it was a hypothetical one. Would you prefer to win the FA Cup or finish top four. Bilic's preference was to win the cup, even though you could achieve both or neither.

    I'm sure, if given one of two options, he'd rather stay up if it meant sacrificing the cup, as there's always another season to win a cup.

    It is a stupid question, I agree. It was thrown about on here and other forums a lot a couple of years ago. Survival or pretty football?
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    edited January 2016
    Let's be honest the number one brief for ANY West Ham manager has been to keep us in the top flight - that certainly has been the case for as long as I've been alive
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    hammerex said:

    Don't agree Suz, first they want to keep Sam,and don't want Bilic, but now the Hammers are playing much better football under Bilic and they love him.

    Huh?? Not sure I get the point

    Sam's brief when appointed was to quickly stabilise and improve a relegated club which was in freefall, then get and consolidate prem status. At the end of his contract the new managerial brief would have been different and perhaps one that wasn't as closely aligned to Sam's attributes as when he first started? Do you really think the Dave's pumped in all that money(buying the club then investing in it) to see us potentially play tika taka as a League 1 club?? I for one don't.
  • LukerzLukerz
    I think the only thing was there were a lot of people who felt we were doomed to relegation because we let Sam go and brought in a PL inexperienced manager. What I would say, is that I haven't actually seen many of them post positively so far this season, so I doubt they now 'love' Bilic.

    I checked out the Bournemouth defeat thread from earlier this season, and some of the comments on there are incredible (as in, we're down etc).
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    hammerex said:

    The supporters that didn't want Bilic as manager.

    I didn't want him.

    I didn't want Raffa.

    And I was worried about letting Sam go.

    I liked Rednapp when he was our manager, I don't like him now.

    Non of that is relavent to how I feel about Billic now.

  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    It's okay to be worried about the unknown, reticent about change, then once you have actual knowledge form an alternative opinion.
  • baracks_a_hammerbaracks_a_hammer
    Luke

    The Dave's themselves deemed it to be a reasonably high risk taking him on - hence the "been there and done it in the major leagues" comment. So if the owners deem it to be a risk there's no reason why some supporters shouldn't be feeling twitchy too

    Anything can happen in the second half of this season (except one would have thought, relegation). Let's see what happens. In fact let's see where we are this time next year, as plenty of prem managerial newbies start off well and then it unravels for them (Zola, Clarke at West Brom to name two). However the big thing in Slav's favour is that at least he has significant managerial experience elsewhere so I for one am confident he will prosper and not fall away after a bright start ;ok
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    edited January 2016
    hammerex said:

    Don't agree Suz, first they want to keep Sam,and don't want Bilic, but now the Hammers are playing much better football under Bilic and they love him.

    It ok to change our minds.

    Just because I was worried what would happen if Sam left does not mean I can not comment on things I like about our current manager.
  • SuzanneClaretSuzanneClaret
    edited January 2016
    I teach first aid.

    I didn't sleep the night before my first teaching session. I was terrified.

    Now 8 months on I'm a happy confident - in my skills - trainer.

    Because I know have knowledge to base my opinion on.
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    edited January 2016
    Lukerz
    there were a lot of people who felt we were doomed to relegation because we let Sam go and brought in a PL inexperienced manager
    No, there really, really weren't, and I'd be amazed if you could find any serious post that suggested that getting rid of Sam would mean inevitable relegation.

    (Ham's posts don't count ;wink)

    I don't see what the point is of completely mis-stating opinions, it doesn't advance any kind of discussion.

    Personally, I felt Sam was a safe pair of hands, and gave us a very high chance of staying in the PL in what is a crucial season to do so.

    I felt that changing him out for a manager with no PL experience involved taking a chance, and that wasn't simply related to the possibility of getting Bilic.

    I don't see how Bilic's most welcome success is meant to invalidate either of those points.

    Personally, I'm tired of some people insisting on binary, either/or states - the world, and people's attitudes are a lot more complex than that.

    I liked Sam, and I liked what he did for our club.

    I like Bilic as a manager (so far) and what he is doing for our club.
  • Dodger58Dodger58
    grey_til_I_dye said:


    (Ham's posts don't count ;wink)

    Is that a sense of humour by-pass?

    ;wink
  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    Dodger

    Yes! ;biggrin
  • LukerzLukerz
    Cuz - I just think he deserves more credit than he's got.

    When he was appointed, there were a few digs about him running off to Everton and a few said he'd have to at least match what Sam did in the first half of last season before they considered him the right man.

    Tell you the truth I think some are surprised he has matched what Sam achieved last season (32 points in 20 games) and are now reluctant to give him much credit.
  • HammerwombatHammerwombat
    I just watched Arsene Wenger interviewed after the gooners beat Sunderland. He spoke for 2 minutes and said absolutely nothing. Slavens interviews have been honest informative and to the point. I'm so glad Wenger is not our manager.
  • OldCastleSwiftOldCastleSwift
    I love him

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    This much
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  • grey_til_I_dyegrey_til_I_dye
    edited January 2016
    Lukerz

    a few digs about him running off to Everton
    You weren't around at the time, fair enough, but please don't doubt or trivialise the amount of hostility and anger he generated in a lot of fans by his actions then.

    I thought it was shabby then, and I still think it was shabby.

    It has no impact, however, on how I view his management of us.
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