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  • Admeus, I agree he only has a limited amount of time to make a difference & I will totally understand if the Democrats do everything in their power to delay. Luckily for him he is in a position to follow through on many of his promises & we may find that in 2 years if he has been blocked he will use that to get an even bigger majority.
    If nothing else the next couple of years will be very interesting
  • so that when America was great then... ;hmm
  • I doubt it.

    Aren't they busy murdering the indigenous population?
  • That it will Simonc, that it will.
  • as you are probably aware, I am no fan of Trump, but I do bristle at the notion that many more Americans voted for Hilary and thus he does not have the popular vote.

    The truth is of course that more Americans did vote for her, but that was driven primarily by the system upon which the voting was established, in other words the number of electoral votes was important - not the actual number of votes cast.

    IF the election was indeed run on a popular vote system when every single vote counted, then the turnout, and probably the outcome would have been very different indeed.

    Hilary, under the same system, attracted far fewer votes than Obama did and she was up against a candidate who was devisive and controversial, the fact that she was unable to hold onto the same voters that had voted for Obama, IMO, negates any claim she may have that she actually won the popular vote.

    In essence, she proved to be a very unpopular candidate.

    We will unfortunately never know, but in my opinion, a democratic candidate with less baggage and a broader appeal, would have wiped the floor with Donald.

  • I want to know why those military officers who lined up behind him gave up on their coup.

    That was seriously weird
  • Chicago i agree iMO Joe Biden gave the presidency to Trump
  • If I`m not mistaken Suze, that is Thomas Jefferson. Unfortunately the content and spirit of The Declaration of Independence was ignored and forgotten before the ink was even dry. The values of Jefferson (slave owner aside) have been bastardised, corrupted and trampled over in the name of power, greed, corruption and Capitalism ever since. Not a bad thing (IMO) turning the clock back 300 years, if America had actually followed and adhered to the principles (particularly those of Jefferson) and sentiments of the original draft I guarantee you that people like Donald Trump would be nowhere near Government office and most likely wouldn`t even exist. Unfortunately the cries of Equality, Liberty and Fraternity were squashed by the very government whose duty it was to actually uphold these principles. Trump is the very antithesis of what Jefferson championed and (believe it or not) he would prefer no government at all to that of an administration headed by Mr Trump. I`m all for turning the clock back 300 years, as with the benefit of hindsight we should be able to avoid people like Trump and the other power hungry psychos that have gone before him.
  • Oh ok ;ok



    I just nicked off face book.
  • Suze, it could quite as easily be Shakespeare or Louis xiv, they all looked the same in them days...............................like an old version of Adam Ant..................
  • "I just knicked of face book"

    "Like an old version of Adam Ant"

    Qualiteeee!

    I just love the humour on this forum! ;clap
  • I meant to post this yesterday:



    Bear with, bear with - listen to the chorus ;biggrin
  • edited January 2017
    The God thing continues...

    According to Trump, God prevented it raining on their parade small gathering*.

    ;doh



    (*note-other forms of gathering are available. Just not for Trump's inauguration ;biggrin )
  • If there is a god I'm hoping there is some smiting in Trumps near future.
  • edited January 2017
    MrsGrey said:

    The God thing continues...

    According to Trump, God prevented it raining on their parade small gathering*.

    ;doh



    (*note-other forms of gathering are available. Just not for Trump's inauguration ;biggrin )

    but it rained and the god botherer said it was a blessing

    http://www.christianpost.com/news/franklin-graham-trump-inauguration-rain-sign-gods-blessing-173271/
  • So he said it didn't rain, but it actually did?

    ;doh

  • If he said today was Sunday I would still have to check.
  • Er.......yeah.


    Trump says lots of things.


    And he lies.



    Millions of Americans know this and didn't vote for him.




    Millions of Americans voted for him amd will learn this.



    Duuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhh
  • edited January 2017






    Millions of Americans voted for him amd will learn this. and don't really care about his lies.



    Duuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhh

    Fixed it for you ;ok



    --
    My comment earlier was a ;doh at the lie. I mean, they could think they'll get away with fudging the attendance figures. People might still believe their version of events or interpretation of the facts.

    But to lie about the actual weather? ;doh ;lol
  • The Republican Party leadership know Trump is a liability and the moment he ceases to be useful to them they will impeach him and Mike Pence will replace him.
  • Mike Pence is right wing side of the Tea Party, I get even more depressed
  • Sanders will landslide next election if he goes again
  • So, the Trump presidency begins with lies, inaccuracies, aggression towards the media, and self-aggrandisement.

    #startasyoumeantogoon
  • So, the Trump presidency begins with lies, inaccuracies, aggression towards the media, and self-aggrandisement.

    #startasyoumeantogoon

    And poor judgement, there really was no need to attack the media over a couple of pictures that were out there comparing attendance at the past couple of presidential inaugurations.

    He would have much been better served to just ignore the issue as it really is not an important issue, unfortunately, he could not help himself and he felt the need to fight back at what he saw as a slight against him.

    #poorjudgement

    Frankly the very first White House press secretary briefing was simply jaw dropping.

    The essence was that Trump wants the history books to record that more people were at his inauguration than any other, he then expects a line to be drawn under the issue believing that if he says something is true then we should all simply accept that it is true and move on.

    #ithinkheismistaken



  • Already, almost all of my work is involving Trump and I'm not even in the US ;weep
  • edited January 2017
    ;weep ;hug

    But what you are doing is so important.

    It seems to me that he sees the media (or at least an unbiased media, interested in the facts, and unaccountable to him) as a threat.

    So he is trying to neutralise that threat by both discrediting and marginalising such media.

    He is trying to disempower the reputable media, manipulate the news, and embed a worldview that facts are irrelevant, anyone who disagrees is lying, and the truth what he says it is.

    That, imo, is why the first presser of his newly appointed Press Secretary took no questions, and made claims that were easily disproved. And why he is (apparently) considering removing credentials from reputable media outlets, or those that are critical, and inviting selected 'bloggers,' sycophants and non-mainstream to be part of the press corps.

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