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There is also no need to shout. ;biggrin
There are fans that have been displaced, because of the +2 system, there are fans that didn't like the comparable view in the new stadium or what they were being asked to pay, many were forced to upgrade as it wasn't even close to being comparable. There are groups of fans that were displaced as well, the OS doesn't have as many tickets like for like in the BML (standing) as what is available in the OS. Those fans have gone to other area's and took their "non-seating" habits with them (which I don't agree with at this stage).
The fact remains for me, the plus two scheme helped in no small part to stop people from having a bigger/wider choice in where they sat. The club chose that system, from what I can tell, to sell as many tickets as they could, because they were worried they'd end up with a partially empty stadium, when in fact they didn't need worry at all. Still it's pushed up demand so they should be okay for a good few years why the 30,000 wait.
And as I said, nothing will change my mind, well unless the club release some kind of information that could change my thinking, but I doubt that will happen.
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Got seats on the brain!!
So it looks like I've repeated a lot of what you've said, when actually I didn't know you'd said it.
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I never once said it was easy, but I do honestly think there was a better way, especially to take care of your previous 26K "loyal" ST holders and your at the time members.
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A comment I'm not sure will help the debate?
(btw - I wouldn't follow me around too closely, your Agree's and CMU's will drop dramatically - FACT)
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I really worry that if it does become what you've mentioned in the last paragraph, then the atmosphere has gone. They've already come out with statements like "you can make an atmosphere while seated"........No DG you really can't/don't.
Nothing I have seen or read suggests that persistent standing would have be allowed under any circumstances, no matter where ST's 'new' seats were located.
But do you think the club may of had the conversation.......
"what about all the folk that generally stand in the TBL and BML, what will happen to them if displaced?"
"let's worry about selling 52K any way we can first, then perhaps we'll deal with that later"
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http://www.fsf.org.uk/blog/view/Cardiff-City-s-incredible-journey-by-Dr-Steve-Frosdick
I think given time West Ham and the stadium owners can come up with a similar solution. ;scarf
Sidetable for your pot noodle ;wink
We sold out
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I told them, but they did not listen.
On a thread that has had around 100 new comments today, suggesting that debate is not allowed or frowned on, or that only 'the party line' is allowed seems a bit strange.
Clearly, this post is self-contradictory, since you and others have been and are free to post what you think.
The reference to 'pointless' was that, in the opinion of many users NOT just MrsG, the non-standing is a done deal, and arguing about what the club should have done or should do will make no difference.
Doesn't mean you can't carry on, just that, in the opinion of many, it will have no impact. Why can't people challenge the source of a rumour?
And how would that stop others from discussing a player if they want to? People on here are free to post their emotional responses to issues if that is what they want. Others are free to approach an issue with an analytical slant if that is their bent (see what I did there? ;wink )
If people just want a forum where they can vent their views and feelings unchallenged, they are bound to be disappointed on here.
But they were blinded, by pound notes and ST sales
If this doesn't sort itself out (which it probably will over time) and people are forced to sit all
Over because there are kids and families Now in the old Unofficial standing areas (BML/TBL/Chav) then the atmosphere is gone.
We will be the new library. Just like Brady had at her favoured club.
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The club and DG in particular spout off they are mere custodians of the club, really it's the fans.
If the fans don't bother to point out the wrongs of the club how do we improve? If they don't acknowledge or ask for feedback how do we try and get more right than wrong.
Well if we've suddenly turned into a club that just worries about the numbers and the money, what's the point.
Why have an SAB or anything similar? Nope let's just sit there eat your popcorn and be thankful you've got a seat at the shiny new bowl. Because if you don't there will be someone to replace you and your loyalty of X amount of years.
The number 1 priority should've been to make sure the 26k ST and possibly members were taken care off, not X amount of non-hammers that jumped the queue and ended up on the founders wall because someone at the RC was on a bonus scheme to sell as many tickets as possible whichever way they could (lies, false information etc)
"I have kids, we've been to the previous games in our East Stand season ticket seats, my kids have missed most of the game.
We didn't know what we'd bought, or where we'd be... but it's not too much to expect to be able to see the pitch.
You wanna stand for no reason; they are 4ft tall and didn't choose row 64. Give us a chance."
What can the club do if the stadium owners insist on fans not 'persistently standing'?
Seriously, what is it you think they can do?
You can point out what you see as the +2 club failings all you like.
The
stadium ownersLondon Stadium Safety Advisory Group and Newham Council are insisting on the 'no persistent standing' rule being adhered to. They have already penalised the club for failing to ensure this.How do you see that being 'sorted out'?