So I can see where Twist is coming from .............
I've paid a tenner to go onto a list and Billy Biggins down the road has an uncle who has a ST so he gets in ahead of me and doesn't even have to cough up a tenner to get his ST, I do cough but don't get a ST ;hmm
They were clear from the start though Expat, the tenner only got your name on a list.
It promised nothing else.
I do understand why its upsetting not to get what what you want when you want it but there were plenty of season tickets available the season we won promotion.
Expat the '+2' were required to pay 25% of the season ticket price for season 16/17 on confirming purchase of their ST. In the case of Band 1 (£225 deposit) that was in June 2015. That deposit was non refundable. So hardly "not paying a penny".
I suspect there are many, many family and friends groups who were delighted to be able to get a chance to sit in with each other.
Wherever demand outstrips supply, there are going to be disappointments.
As to stories of other fans getting season tickets - seems remarkably unlikely to me, and if there are instances, I would imagine they are remarkably few.
Why would anyone buy a season ticket to go to another team's games?
Where would the fun be in it?
Well of course its in my opinion. Which i had posted on my longer comment....
And I also admitted it wasn't an easy task.
Of course there have been some positive results, with people getting friends tickets.....or family members sitting together.
I have seen on other forums personal experiences and articles shared of posters who know of other clubs fans that have got hold of tickets. I have no reason not to believe them.
We went from 26k ST to 50K all of a sudden...and while the pull of the OS and some of the ticket pricing is clearly massive, then I think you're possibly underestimating how many non-hammers have got hold of tickerts (who knows perhaps they will convert? *sigh*)
They get to see PL football on the cheap....and get all the big games......it's obviously not for me or you, or even most people....but I think it's happening.
is the +2 thing still in effect they probably should have put a time period on it after they realised they were getting alot of applicants could have shelved it after 6 or 7 months.
So I can see where Twist is coming from .............
I've paid a tenner to go onto a list and Billy Biggins down the road has an uncle who has a ST so he gets in ahead of me and doesn't even have to cough up a tenner to get his ST, I do cough but don't get a ST ;hmm
Expat the '+2' were required to pay 25% of the season ticket price for season 16/17 on confirming purchase of their ST. In the case of Band 1 (£225 deposit) that was in June 2015. That deposit was non refundable. So hardly "not paying a penny".
I'd of been over the moon to pay 25% up front for a year knowing I'd jumped the queue of members that had been around for possibly years....and disrupted current ST seat plans.....at the newest and most iconic stadium around in its first season
Again...it's not easy....but they certainly haven't rewarded loyalty of lower band ST or long term members and they've kept on taking tenners off people with no chance of getting a ST for years.
They'd better produce that 20 goal a season striker.....
I have seen on other forums personal experiences and articles shared of posters who know of other clubs fans that have got hold of tickets. I have no reason not to believe them.
There might be no reason not to believe them, but there's also no reason to think the number of stories you read in any way reflects the actual reality in terms of number who did this.
Maybe it is more.
Or maybe there are only 17 other club fans who have done this. They just have a wide circle of friends, followers on twitter and know people who are members of several fan forums. If each one repeats it 5 times 'I know of a couple of fans who have done it' and it gets repeated and repeated .... it soon looks like a lot.
Of course, I have no real idea how many - but neither do you.
It's like a chain letter. Before you know it, stories are on every site, forum, facebook page and twitter account . But we don't know how many are at the root of it, and we can't use 'stories on the internet' to judge.
So I'll refrain from using 'these anecdotes' this as evidence that it's a big issue.
I'd of been over the moon to pay 25% up front for a year knowing I'd jumped the queue of members that had been around for possibly years....and disrupted current ST seat plans.
Remind me again how they disrupted current ST seat plans. ;hmm
Expat the '+2' were required to pay 25% of the season ticket price for season 16/17 on confirming purchase of their ST. In the case of Band 1 (£225 deposit) that was in June 2015. That deposit was non refundable. So hardly "not paying a penny".
I'd of been over the moon to pay 25% up front for a year knowing I'd jumped the queue of members that had been around for possibly years....and disrupted current ST seat plans.....at the newest and most iconic stadium around in its first season
I'd of been over the moon to pay 25% up front for a year knowing I'd jumped the queue of members that had been around for possibly years....and disrupted current ST seat plans.
Remind me again how they disrupted current ST seat plans. ;hmm
Band 1 and 2 ST holders that took +2 and filled up those area's, even ones that took on the cheap kids tickets to be told "don't worry you can upgrade to an adult later - wink, wink", therefore pushed Bands 3 and 4 ST holders further back.
Yes there are more tickets at the OS in Band 1 & 2 but not three times more
I have seen on other forums personal experiences and articles shared of posters who know of other clubs fans that have got hold of tickets. I have no reason not to believe them.
There might be no reason not to believe them, but there's also no reason to think the number of stories you read in any way reflects the actual reality in terms of number who did this.
Maybe it is more.
Or maybe there are only 17 other club fans who have done this. They just have a wide circle of friends, followers on twitter and know people who are members of several fan forums. If each one repeats it 5 times 'I know of a couple of fans who have done it' and it gets repeated and repeated .... it soon looks like a lot.
Of course, I have no real idea how many - but neither do you.
It's like a chain letter. Before you know it, stories are on every site, forum, facebook page and twitter account . But we don't know how many are at the root of it, and we can't use 'stories on the internet' to judge.
So I'll refrain from using 'these anecdotes' this as evidence that it's a big issue.
I can only tell you what I've read and actually none of it was on Twitter for the record, regarding "other clubs fans buying tickets".
It's all been on a number of well know WHU forums.
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Season tickets were available at the start of the 13/14 season with half season tickets going on sale Christmas 2013.
Demand has out stripped supply.
It's what happens at successful clubs.
I've paid a tenner to go onto a list and Billy Biggins down the road has an uncle who has a ST so he gets in ahead of me and doesn't even have to cough up a tenner to get his ST, I do cough but don't get a ST ;hmm
The £10 is to go on a wait list. The +2s did not go on a wait list so did not have to pay it.
But that possibility was made clear from the off. People weren't coughing up to guarantee a ST, but to guarantee a shot at one.
To come back after, having missed out, and say 'That's not fair!' seems strange to me.
Some people were always going to miss out on season tickets, given the demand.
The priority list is just about a season ticket.
Match day tickets will be sold as they are now.
1 - bond holders
2 - ST holders
3 - Members
4 - Gen sale
So they say, OK, cough £10 to go on a waiting list while we let a few thousand bunk in before you and not pay a penny.
It promised nothing else.
I do understand why its upsetting not to get what what you want when you want it but there were plenty of season tickets available the season we won promotion.
There was no rush to buy one or complaints then.
I skimmed this earlier today - obviously didn't pay enough attention
And I also admitted it wasn't an easy task.
Of course there have been some positive results, with people getting friends tickets.....or family members sitting together.
I have seen on other forums personal experiences and articles shared of posters who know of other clubs fans that have got hold of tickets. I have no reason not to believe them.
We went from 26k ST to 50K all of a sudden...and while the pull of the OS and some of the ticket pricing is clearly massive, then I think you're possibly underestimating how many non-hammers have got hold of tickerts (who knows perhaps they will convert? *sigh*)
They get to see PL football on the cheap....and get all the big games......it's obviously not for me or you, or even most people....but I think it's happening.
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All the while being a charlton fan....
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Again...it's not easy....but they certainly haven't rewarded loyalty of lower band ST or long term members and they've kept on taking tenners off people with no chance of getting a ST for years.
They'd better produce that 20 goal a season striker.....
Maybe it is more.
Or maybe there are only 17 other club fans who have done this. They just have a wide circle of friends, followers on twitter and know people who are members of several fan forums. If each one repeats it 5 times 'I know of a couple of fans who have done it' and it gets repeated and repeated .... it soon looks like a lot.
Of course, I have no real idea how many - but neither do you.
It's like a chain letter. Before you know it, stories are on every site, forum, facebook page and twitter account . But we don't know how many are at the root of it, and we can't use 'stories on the internet' to judge.
So I'll refrain from using 'these anecdotes' this as evidence that it's a big issue.
Best £10 you ever spent. And Modibo treated himself to Teddy's Soccer School interactive DVD.
Yes there are more tickets at the OS in Band 1 & 2 but not three times more
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It's all been on a number of well know WHU forums.
What I would lay money on, is it is happening.
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